Fighting game lingo you find annoying

It used to mean something, then people like that got ahold of it :frowning:

Section of Brooklyn I’m from called it the flip kick…

The term died with arcades. You had to pay to play. So if someone came up and challenged you and kept challenging you and losing every single time, the term “stay free” was used because you didn’t have to use any money. 10-0 would be “free” while 10-1 would not be free unless the opponent beats you in the last game and you decide not to waste any quarters to challenge again. In that specific case 10-1 would count as free because it was common for people to get bored of winning, throw the last match, and go home.

The above is based on information from pre-2002, I haven’t been to arcades since then. /old man

There’s no hard and fast rule I can give you, but technology is, for example, the game console or arcade cabinet you’re playing on, the controller you’re playing with, the game engine upon which the game you’re strategizing for is built, and even the game itself. All examples of actual technology. Combo design is not technology.

When its moves like Hadouken then it doesn’t really matter since everyone knows what that is, but when it isn’t as obvious as moves in SF (especially when characters have japanese move names. I have no clue then), it can be very jarring; especially when you are trying to learn a new character and their combos. I mean the whole point of typing up combos is that everyone can understand it. If you type up a proper transcript then i can at least do the combo then and there without having to find out what moves are. I usually post a full transcript when typing combos since i can never remember the names of moves, it is easier to write and (at least for me) easier to understand.

They probably do know what it means, but only ascribe it to others when it’s convenient for them and never recognizing they were free, because that would be too damaging to their pre-teen ego.

Except that’s it’s totally technology.

Technology isn’t just machinery. Methods (aka, anti-Zero technology) are also technology. So the term fits.

Before you argue this, look up what technology means, because I’m right and you’re wrong.

seriously how is this ‘humor’?

Person A: "I don’t like it when people say ‘penis’.

Person B: “PENIS PENIS PENIS”

At least one person in the audience: “Lol Epic!”

iantothemax has another FP posting with everyones favorite term so I left him this:

I never said that technology was only machinery. My example included software as well, and the actual term surely includes other things that I didn’t bother to consider. Simply saying that technology means methods is a gross oversimplification of the term. And your heavy-handed (and childish-sounding, to be honest) claim that you’re right and I’m wrong was a rather ineffective bluff. Look it up? I did.


http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/technology
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/technology
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/technology
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/american-english/technology (Just the American English version of the above)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/technology
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/technology?r=66

In fact, a couple of those links include definitions that prove you’re right… vastly outnumbered by the definitions that prove you’re wrong. And in fact, the links even provide more insight as to why the term pisses me off when you read some of the definitions’ great contrast to how the term is used here. So are you satisfied, or are you gonna make me argue this even more? Because I’d really rather not.

“Happy birthday”
“New tech”

what does this even mean

Happy Birthday
Free
Salty

Noticed people with anime avatars hate the term anime fighter. Hmm

You’re an idiot.

I can explain. In his infinite cunning, TiZ thinks that because some of the definitions he found didn’t include methods and methodology, that he’s somehow correct, as though words were defined by majority vote. That’s not even touching on his inability to read, as many of the definitions he provides make the use of “technology” in the fighting game context 100% valid.

People don’t like ‘anime fighter’ because they think its derogatory. (Altho I should note I like it myself, but still that’s the reason people get mad about it)

Yeah that shit was mad funny.

I hate it when people say word my local scene doesn’t use, but word my local scene uses is okay.

Fine, I’ll play this game with you.

Let’s take a recent example of “technology” and break it down, see how well the term applies to it with various definitions. We’ll use the Anti-Phoenix one since it’s recent. As a quick summary, the recent Anti-Phoenix “technology” is basically the capability of X-Factor cancelling an up or down exchange into a side exchange, which works as long as the Phoenix player is mashing to counter side exchange; the player being comboed upon can’t make another counter attempt for 15 frames. As for options to counteract this, the defender can try to guess the first exchange direction (up->side, down->side, or just side), or wait until after X-Factor to counter the side exchange, whereas the attacker can just go straight for the side exchange if they know that their opponent is aware of this trick. It’s certainly an ingenious trick, and introduces another layer of depth into gameplay vs. Phoenix. But is it “technology”?

"the study of or a collection of techniques."
Under this definition, yes, it is technology. And the techniques involved are pretty comprehensively documented, too.

"the practical application of knowledge especially in a particular area […] a capability given by the practical application of knowledge […] a manner of accomplishing a task especially using technical processes, methods, or knowledge"
Yes, under this definition, it is technology as well. It’s most certainly practical to stop Phoenix from transforming, and we’re applying the knowlege of frame data and X-Factor cancelling in order to accomplish that.

"the application of practical sciences to industry or commerce"
And here’s where it starts to break down. Fighting game technique and comprehensive understanding and utilization of its rules is not practical science by any stretch of the imagination… nor does it have anything to do with industry or commerce. No, fighting games are not an industry, and if you’re going to say they are, get over yourself. They are part of the gaming industry, but the act of playing them at a high level is, while impressive and indicative of intelligence, technical skill, and manual dexterity, NOT an industry. Not technology under this definition.

"(the study and knowledge of) the practical, especially industrial, use of scientific discoveries"
And if you think you’re a scientist for coming up with a practical combo or solution to a difficult gameplay problem, then you also need to get over yourself. You’re ingenious, but you’re not a scientist. No under this definition.

"the branch of knowledge that deals with the creation and use of technical means and their interrelation with life, society, and the environment, drawing upon such subjects as industrial arts, engineering, applied science, and pure science."
Fighting game technique does not utilise industrial arts, engineering, applied science, or pure science. No under this definition.

"advanced scientific knowledge used for practical purposes, especially in industry"
Nope here too.

"The application of science, especially to industrial or commercial objectives."
Nope.

"That branch of knowledge which deals with the various industrial arts; the science or systematic knowledge of the industrial arts, as spinning, metal-working, or brewing."
Nope.

"the discipline dealing with the art or science of applying scientific knowledge to practical problems"
Nope.

That’s two definitions in your favor, and seven in mine. And you are certainly right in that majority does not determine definition in and of itself, but the majority is indicative of what most people understand the word to mean, and the FGC’s use of it fails under most people’s understanding of it. We can mash all of these definitions together into one simplified defintion, “The practical application of technical knowledge from various branches of science,” and the way the FGC uses the word still fails under it, and cuts straight to the core of why I hate this particular piece of lingo.

Yes, it takes intelligence and ingenuity to devise and discover effective combos, methods, tricks, and exploits for use in fighting games, which developers go out of their way to try and make as rock-solid stable and balanced as possible. Go ahead and pat yourself on the back, you deserve it. You’re advancing the game’s depth and technical knowledge base, and making it more fun to play (or sometimes just breaking it outright, that works too). But when you use “technology” to try to refer to such discoveries, you’re obviously just trying to use a “fancy” word to make yourself and your discoveries look cool, and trying to pass yourself off as some sort of hot-shit scientist. It’s pretentious, it’s egotistical, and it irritates me all to hell, and a lot of people in this thread feel the same way. The word “technique” is easily sufficient, way more accurate, and isn’t pretentious and egotistical.

You can argue that you’re right and that I’m wrong all you want, but the best case scenario for you at this point is a difference of opinion. If I were you, I would leave it at that.

I don’t mind the term…When it makes sense.

People consider BB a anime fighter, but not GG?

To me, an anime fighter is a game that has had an animated show/movie.

Melty Blood, Street Fighter, TMNT, Arcana Heart, ANIME FIGHTERS.

Now, people will see Street Fighter, and say “Hey, that’s not an anime fighter.”

Why not, it’s had an anime?

I also hate when people use the term pejoratively, that I do not understand.