Fighting game business models/The hype trap

First off, I’m sorry in advance if this is in the wrong section, I don’t post here often.

Secondly, I’m a cheap bastard (as in monetarily cheap). If the thought of that makes you irrationally angry, you might want to stop reading now.

If you’re still here… well, then prepare for some cringeworthy masochism from yours truly, I guess. (If you want the short version, go here.)

So, Dragonball Fighter Z. Game looks fucking amazing, and I’m one of those poor bastards that didn’t group up with the Dragonball series as a kid, and also not a graphics person. But then again, after Guilty Gear Xrd, one should expect that awesome art style of Arc System Works. You know what else should be expected of them? Re-releases. Tons and tons of them. Because I’m a dumbass, I bought Guilty Gear Xrd ~Sign~ at launch, thinking Capcom sorta implementing free-to-play mechanics in Street Fighter V (probably taking cues from Killer Instinct and Dead or Alive 5: Last Round) was a sign of a more general paradigm shift with the genre’s business models.

Nope! Guilty Gear Xrd ~Revelator~ happened not even a year later. Needless to say, I was pissed. If I had any interest in playing Street Fighter games in general, I’d rather take SFV’s apparently shitty Fight Money system (breakdown under the spoiler) over a mandatory payment to continue playing a game you already bought. Essentially buying a patch - which, in this day and age, is utterly asinine.

So naturally, I started getting very, very concerned over all the hype surrounding Dragonball Fighter Z, considering the above, especially for some of my real-life friends who are avid DBZ fans… and that brings us to how I got myself targeted by a rabid fandom/hatedom. I started telling people about the above in the comments of Maximilian’s latest Real Talk video, which is centered around the controversy regarding Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite. Even if the game looks like shit, (presumably) plays like shit, is probably continuing a trend of pandering to the eSports scene, has Day negative 60 DLC, and has shied away from a Fight Money-like system… I’d still take all of that over the archaic “buying a patch” practice Arc System Works and Aksys Games still employ. DLC’s still optional and there’s still a smidgen of a chance Street Fighter V was the start of a trend where Capcom actually tries to avoid Capcom Sequel Stagnation for once. Worst case scenario, “Ultimate” Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite happens, I learn my lesson, then promptly fuck back off over to the free-to-play fighters. Meanwhile, I’ve grown to expect that spending $60 on an Arc System Works is definitely not going to be the end of it, and have come to hate them even more than how people hate Capcom nowadays. (I make a sort-of “bare minimum” price breakdown here in an attempt to better illustrate my point.)

Maybe I’m truly the odd one out for thinking about saving my own money in consumerism-addled America. Maybe people not buying a game for its graphics is still an unpopular opinion even in the fighting game genre. Maybe it’s both, I don’t even fucking know anymore. The ridiculously negative backlash I get everywhere for talking about my points above kind of shows that (including here, most likely).

Just wanted to post that I didn’t bother to read your ramblings because you didn’t bother to post this in the Fighting Game Discussion section…which isn’t hard to locate.

Yeah, except from the description of that section, it seems to be about the fighting games themselves.

“Discuss fighting games awesome enough to play, but not big enough to have their own subforum here yet. Also the place for general fighting game theory.”

Doesn’t really seem like the place to be talking about business models.

edit: Oh boy, I’m already getting downvoted. I’d say “explain how talking about shitty business models relates to the above description”, but I’ll just let the mob mentality run its course.

well this time they have bamco monies behind it, I guess its not their call to release updated editions this time around

Yeah, I’ve been told elsewhere that Bandai Namco are publishing the game. If TTT2 was still their latest fighting game, I’d stay that’s a good thing. But Tekken 7 shows that they’re not shy about going back on their word regarding free DLC.

Ripping tale old chap

Didn’t think I’d find a place more flippant than YouTube comments.

Guess I was wrong.

At least the YouTube commenters put in some effort to throw irrational hatred at dissenters.

Well the problem is that this isnt in the right section so why should take seriously when you seem tbe type to think that ranch dressing is a pizza sauce?

Alright, well instead of you guys being snarky, how about maybe tell me how I’d go about contacting someone to get this moved? (It says you’re a mod, so I don’t know why your first thought wasn’t just moving the thread to begin with.)

In your guys’ defense, I failed to actually delve into the subform and read [the rules](Rules of FGD: Read Me First Or You Will Be Banned so the downvotes are actually justified this time around.

But this is General Discussion not Fighting Game Discussion.
You took a wrong turn at Albuquerque Doc.

Yeah, I get it, I fucked up. This is why I put that little foreword at the top, I don’t post here on SRK often.

But now you guys are making yourself look foolish basically going, “hey let’s all point and laugh at that idiotic new guy”.

I suppose I’ll help myself with the contact link down at the bottom there.

Been here five years, posts in the wrong place, gets mad bwcause he got clowned for it, still tried to take the noral high ground.

Okay.

Are you going to help, or are you just going to sit here stating the obvious (that I’m an idiot) and not doing anything mod-like? (Besides maybe banning me for talking back, because you seem like that type of guy.)

I’m kind of glad I don’t hang around these forums often if this is the response I’ll usually get.

Wah wah wah wah wah.

What’s up with all these misplaced threads?

Can motherfuckers not read?

Thanks for continuing to prove my point.

You are certainly putting the ‘free’ in ‘freecom’

General Discussion has been the place for snark and smugness for 17 years. That we would change for you is the zenith of self-absorption. Do you go into other people’s homes and dictate how they should all behave?

So please, go the fuck away and never come back to GD unless you want your asshole rekt.

Why would you get banned for talking back? Must be some reddit thing.

Fun fact: I can’t move threads anymore. Not sure why but I can’t. So I can’t actually do mod things. :dizzy:

@Raz0r I’ll keep that in mind. (In hindsight, maybe I should’ve expected as much, considering this is an FGC site and all.)