hey, january 2nd i’m getting a new laptop / netbook - my custom stick is still out of commission but i’ll see about hopping back on ggpo with my ex2 if you want some ballooooooooon action
Eff Zazie.
Well I meant that any decent Ryoko player would beat the crappy karnov that J.Wong played.
You know I’m down for it any time :tup:
A good Ryoko might be able to win, sure. But Justin was also playing Ray in the tournament, so he could always just switch to that if he lost. Ray vs. Ryoko is one of the most lopsided matchups in the game. Pretty much all Ray needs is fireball, wheel kick, and sweep to just push out Ryoko the entire time… lack of experience nonwithstanding, I think Justin could manage to do that just fine.
I know you don’t want to give up on Ryoko, but she’s the worst 
Hey, sorry Portland Drama, my computer froze when I was playing you last night, and then totally forgot to sign back on.
And that’s where a backup comes in handy.
Haha, Lee can go straight into his infinite after a fire punch in the corner. FP, fast rush, cr.LK, fast rush, etc. It’s a good way to reduce reps for the infinite since the FP does so much damage.
oki’ing with fire palm in general is the main reason lee is S tier imo
Hm, I think I’ve found something interesting. Lee’s fast rush will whiff crouching opponents if done close. So, since you can switch to crouching or standing while on hitstun, you should be able to avoid his infinite by just crouching when he hits you.
wow that grand final was some sorry shit
What happened, I thought you were comming to NEC? Kinda hard to talk shit if you say you’re showing up and don’t.
It is character-specific… the corner infinite will not work on some characters, whether they’re standing or crouching, he goes right through them with the fast rush. Off the top of my head I know it always goes through Ryoko in the corner, pretty sure there’s at least a couple others but I can’t remember who.
Also on a lot of (all?) characters a point-blank fast rush will go through them whether they’re standing or crouching…
Honestly I hardly even use the infinite with Lee, his regular palm blast combos do enough damage anyway, usually enough to kill. Going for the infinite is riskier, especially online where it’s harder to time it.
P.S. 2009 = Year of the Ox. Protect your trophies!
Against Ryoko and Mars it will always whiff, but against everyone else except Karnov, Zazie and Samchay, the infinite will work on standing opponents but miss on crouching ones. Against the three exceptions, it will always work regardless of standing or crouching positions. Also, against these characters the fast rush will become unblockable (or maybe it crosses them up? I can’t test that myself) if they are near the corner.
Personally, I find the infinite very easy to do, and my execution is pretty lousy. Finishing the match right there is always better than leaving them a chance to come back, so I think this info may be useful.
Also, I’ll be adding some stuff to the Lee article, so feel free to correct me or my grammar / spelling heh.
nah i didnt make it out to nec this time. the dude i was riding with couldnt make it.
and nah its not that hard
Is there anything you can do against Zazie’s rush uppers? That shit alone shuts me down completely. Zazie just gets on your face and does rush upper x N, hands and pokes and I just can’t do anything at all. With Lee and Jean I just simply sit down and die, I only manage to do something with Karnov, but I still get owned hard.
The rush seems to have some vulnerability at the start, but after that it’s just like free chip damage forever. BRICKz / 409’s Zazie almost makes me punch the screen in despair.
wheel kick
Pretty sure with Lee you can hit him out of recovery on Nerd Fire with upkick. Or is it before Nerd Fire? I forget ):
Every time I tried to punish nerd fire with upkicks I whiffed and got horribly raped. Maybe my timing was off though.
I can catch his dash on startup with Jean’s Flashkick sometimes, but lots of times it just goes straight through it and, guess what, rape.
Depends on if he does hellfire or not. If he dashes into hellfire, you have to upkick before he does hellfire. if he HK dashes only, you’re done if you did an anticipated upkick. As for Jean… bad matchup. That’s all I can say.
Hum, NO. If Zazie can make contact with Ray with a dash hellfire, you want to be careful with the wheel kicks. Or else, Zazie will fuck you up.
ummmmmmm yes
ray has hella invincibility on his wheel kick on startup
im not saying just constantly spam it