I’m inclined to think the 1-frame link isn’t as hard as it sounds considering we’ve been able to do it before in Vanilla SF4 with Tenshin > Super and it really wasn’t too difficult there.
The issue with it is, as a meaty tool, you can now open the opponent up for nearly 500 damage. Also, Tenshin (and more significantly, EX Tenshin) isn’t that slow, especially if they’re speeding up the start-up so it doesn’t work off of jab stun anymore.
With Yun and Yang, their damage has been nerfed so it’s less of a problem-- getting hit with the grab won’t end the game at 45% life. Also, they can do it “naked” because their version of Tenshin is significantly faster (10/8 frames vs Fei’s 14/12 frames) and they’re able to utilize frame advantage to shield it, so it’s nearly the same as doing a jab cancel. On hit or block they can do Jab > pause > Tenshin for the same effect as our Jab xx Tenshin. At least we whiff on hit, giving the opponent a full combo. Also, the frame advantage from Fei’s normals leaves a pretty big 7-9 frame gap between the end of the move to the start of the Tenshin if you were to argue using it that way.
Good news everyone the tenshin into Ultra 1 has’nt been confirmed and according to Jason24cfs friends the reduced recovery is only for whiffed tenshin. Kim1234 never tested it on the locationtest so some troll must have answered the question in the document.
I played some Fei Long at the location test last Friday. He is still pretty much the same. The rekka range on the changelist sheet they had at the event said 20% reduction, as a Fei player it was noticeable but it’s very slight and I’m not sure if people that don’t play Fei would notice. The move pretty much feels the same otherwise. I tried tenshin into Ultra 1 but couldn’t get it to go, to be fair I tried it like 3 times with mashing. The c.lk is 4 frames but it’s still chainable so I didn’t feel too much of a difference.
Light rekka, he still can do stand lp tenshin, just not ex tenshin, only ex tenshin has a faster startup, no changes to recovery don’t know where all these rumors came from.
I seriously don’t hope that “no longer cancel-able” means that the move is’nt chainable anymore what combos would Fei have then. And seriously Tenshin 1 point of damage nerf… I hope all command grabs that lead into combos get that treatment if that nerf stays on Fei.
We can also mail Combofiend directly with requests, click on his Unity profile under Group Officials and click on the mail icon in the top right corner of his profile page. Lets get our voices out there guys!
So less time to hitconfirm second rekka YAY. I seriously hope there will be a USF4 v.2013 cause as some has mentioned already at this rate Fei will be the new SSF4AE v.2012 Yang.
^it’s only to hit-confirm the third hit, it’s not hard at all. 2 frames less are not gonna make a difference.
So now the last hit of the ultra always combos from juggles? That’s something at least. I wish they removed the unchainable cr.lk though, it’s a pointless nerf
getting the last juggle hit on U1 in FADC combos is a good buff. That does a lot of damage
honestly, these nerfs aren’t really too bad, except for the 4F cr.LK nerf, but I can deal with that. It’s not a big problem when I play gen who has a 4F cr.LK. I can’t notice the difference that much
