The last one definitely gets me lol. I’m also a bit hesitant to whiff moves in front of Gief since I’m not sure how far his new SPD range reaches. That’s got me a bit paralyzed right now in that fight. I think it’ll just take some research and experience to get over that though.
yeah, its silly. i got a pretty good patient gief to help me with the match tho, so it’ll get better.
ive always sucked at the matches where fei absolutely needs to be patient to win tho, so i just need to concentrate more i guess
are you guys nor fighting giefs that are using U2? Man that has me second guessing everything I do after his an ex green hand. I also have to get used to st.hk as an anti-air against him as FK is a no go after he gets ultra.
Recently I’ve only fought Giefs that use U2, but I have yet to see how effective it is in AE. Does it catch back-dashes reliably now?
yea since fei’s backdash was changed to be considered airborn after the i-frames it will catch ya, it’s a such a scary mixup.
Anybody catching the streams?
I just played Aquasilk for a set to like 5 or 7 in Ranked. For the most part it’s still possible to footsie Gief successfully, but that goddamn throw range is ridiculous. I’m getting hit from it at ranges where I used to be safe in Super–it’s such a headache.
And that EX Glove mix-up is definitely scary with Ultra 2. The mix-up goes:
EX Glove on hit (via hit-confirm, etc.):
[LIST]
[]Command throw [must jump, backdash or use flame kick/CW]
[]EX Glove [must block or jump]
[]Ultra 2 [must stay grounded, no backdash/jump/flamekick/CW]
[]Nothing/blocking > Sweep [must block, retreat jump or Flame Kick FADC out]
[/LIST]
If he gets a command throw, he creeps up with another Glove and can do the SAME exact mix-up again. The rough thing is that most of the anti-pressure options that Fei has require some sort of airborne movement, and if he doesn’t do that, he’ll eat an SPD for pretty significant damage and another forced guess. Maybe I’m just bad at rock-paper-scissors, but I was eating 2 SPDs per mix-up each time trying NOT to panic, and then either ending with getting hit by the Ultra or a sweep (against backdash) into a safe-jump.
It may just be my inexperience vs AE Gief but I feel like this fight really is tougher for Fei based on his HK CW nerf (which requires you to keep a meter stocked for a chance at EX CW to escape certain situations, or 3 meters if you want a back-up Flame Kick FADC just in case), and also for Gief’s buffs to U2 and SPD damage/range. It may not be in Gief’s advantage, but the guessing games with him are even more ludicrous than before.
fei still dominates the match as long as your neutral defense dosent crack.
thats what i was talking about with the matchup. i can stay soilid for 50 seconds or so, but gief gets going once, and you can say goodnite
its heavy favored for fei at the highest level, but anywhere in the mid levels where you arent 100% solid, the match can go either way
I’m not even talking about being solid or not–it’s just a matter of whether you know what’s coming next. Naturally, Gief shouldn’t be in range to get that EX Glove ever, but when it happens, it’s all 50-50’s with fundamentals thrown out the window. You try to block–you get thrown. You try to backdash–you get swept or Ultra’d. You do a neutral jump, you’re anti-aired. Etc. etc. etc.
Winning the match can come really easily if you’re lucky enough to not be hit by something random, but there’s always that off-chance and then it’s just like playing Yun almost. It was never like this in Super though; HK CW could get out of most options and didn’t need a meter. Blah, it’ll take some time I guess.
Online tourney for those on the East Coast and interested. I’ll be headed to Battle of 8-Bit tomorrow likely so I gotta bone up tonight. Hit me up if you see me online.
So I got to meet CJ at CEO this past weekend. He is a very good player. He mashes DP when ever he has 2 bars. So if you go through a block string he isnt scared to miash his DP. Very good execution and he uses frametraps on the other players wake up and they are as follows: cl.mp>st.lp>delay cr.lp to Rekka or walkin grab. The FL community is pushing him hard as there only hope which is kind of sad because there were others players that are far better then him but he gets the push because of his age.
He only fought players if it was a money match. His parents were pushing the idea as well. He ran through a good few players but once they seen his gameplan they then had a runback and won the game. Justin owned him like 10 straight games. Justin used just footsies against him and punished everyone of his mashed DP’s.
As for my play I shit on myself badly. After playing players like Gootecks, Nerd Josh, Min and other great players and beating them I lose to random players who mashed shit. I guess with it being my first major I was to excited so i lost my games. All in all it was still great I got on the stream 2 times i think. The first when I announced that I got Mad Catz to sponsor us and then at the start of AE on Sunday to thank our sponsors.
i think the commentators and shit are pushing it more than any of the real fei community
I think he meant Florida when he said FL …
I will try my darnest to have the best Fei-Long, and hopefully make this board, Bruce Lee, Jason24cf, proud!
Hardcore Evo training begins.
and remember, the Twins may be godlike, but they are also scared of you!
Nooks made me lol and Freddy confused me with his zest. Ahhh, tis good to be playing a competitive game.
Make me proud? Thanks but I’m really a nobody man. I get a lot done in the community but as a player I’m above average. I did enjoy playing Gootecks, Nerd Josh, Min and countless others and here them say “you have potential” that’s makes me feel good but in the end I am a average Joe like everyone else. I just happen to have a drive to get things done and it worked out for me. I mean look at my join date. June 26 I believe and I have done so much in less then a year makes me proud.
I really do this to make you guys proud as I was a noob and you all helped me out. Kenny, Higg, HNIC and many others here. To think it all started with the Seth interview back at Comic Con in October of last year. Remember I did that interview along withe the Mago and Inthul for us here in this forum. I would never think that my interviews would become a mainstream thing. So in the end make yourself proud and give it your best. We all help each other here.
oh i just meant make u proud as a Fei Long and Bruce Lee fan duh hahahah
dont ge me wrong, im doing this for myself for sure.
also of note, V-Ryu released a Makoto anti-Fei vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rirapHSGMKs
Ill find some ANTI-Makoto tech for this board, and twins as well
Ooo! This is making me all Warm ‘n’ Fuzzy!
I wish I had a great spirit boosting speech, but I don’t. Maybe later.
Ooch this video hurts. If I use wake-up pressure on Makoto I use F.HK as most Makoto us there EX command grab for escape options.
I’ve been doing too much ranked trolling recently… Freddy let’s get some matches later, I’ll beat the snot outta you lol.
ull try, but it wont change anything. If u come to Evo, then ill show u the deal. Online is just junk lolz (my fault, fisher price internet ftl)
. gonna have off for a couple of days though so we will def play.