Features you do NOT want to see in modern fighting games

[tataki]

I’m actually defending Capcom’s decision to force you to have only training stage in training mode with absurd reasoning

Ok I think I’m done here…

[Reruns]

-Autopilot option selects.

Comeback mechanics

Fuckin’…Okay, fine. If you think that something is a comeback mechanic, it’s probably because it’s bad. Just try not to think about whatever stupid comeback mechanic your favorite fighter almost certainly has.

[Hecatom]

Invincible backdash

and yet not of that stuff has been a real problem on any game outside sf4 (and that its debatable)

[keo-bas]

Invincible backdash

it’s a plague affecting all modern fighting games. It’s super stupid, it makes for an easy and often safe cop-out in many situations, dampering many kinds of character design and strategy. On wakeup situations it can partially dealt with using option selects, but that means you basically have to limit your options to OS-able ones (thus, much less creativity); but the worse is backdashing out of any non frame-tight blockstrings. All of this leads to being quite limited in what you can do to mantain pressure with most characters. It makes for a quite dull upclose game.

ah build strategy around it?

[WarlockDLX]

Ok I think I’m done here…

if you are going to use my quote box you need to make sure its accurate to what i said. but yes, i am defending it because it has purpose. do you go to a martial arts instructor and ask why you cant train in front of a grand audience of spectators? no… or how bout a silk Gee? why? because its not necessary. you train with whats needed, not whats unnecessary. i just think if somebody doesnt want the grids they are missing out on the benefits of them. i think if you dont use the grids you could probably stand to improve your game a bit by playing around with them. they are useful. so yeah. i guess i do defend their use of locking it in for training. id rather look at that in a training video than be struggling to read command inputs or see what the characters were doing because the background didnt contrast well with what i was trying to see… but that could just be me.

[orka]

Female characters having manfeet/manhands/manface

[zUkUu]

Gems. Kappa

[Firekid2468]

• Characters that talk non-stop during matches
  This is probably only a problem in Blazblue, but personally I can’t stand how vocal the characters are in that game. Is it really necessary for them to say something after every attack/hit? Guilty Gear was not that bad. Blazblue is just unbearable.

The characters talking so much in BB is actually a pretty useful audio cue if you know what to listen for.

For instance, Makoto will say “weaksauce” after instant-blocking, as opposed to her normal blocking grunts, and she’ll say different things after combos to give a general idea of how much damage you’ve done in the combo. If she combos Hazama for 2k she’ll say “That was for Noel”. Hit him with a 5k combo, and she’ll say
"And that was for ME!"

Random tripping.

Fuck, I hate tripping.

[KumaOso]

Random tripping.

[Buster_Cannon]

Having to grind to unlock characters. Beating arcade mode a couple of times is one thing, but it shouldn’t take forever and a half to unlock people. The more time I have to spend grinding, the less time I have to experiment.

Invincible backdash

it’s a plague affecting all modern fighting games. It’s super stupid, it makes for an easy and often safe cop-out in many situations, dampering many kinds of character design and strategy. On wakeup situations it can partially dealt with using option selects, but that means you basically have to limit your options to OS-able ones (thus, much less creativity); but the worse is backdashing out of any non frame-tight blockstrings. All of this leads to being quite limited in what you can do to mantain pressure with most characters. It makes for a quite dull upclose game.

I dunno, Garou had it and it was a pretty awesome game nonetheless.

[Negative-Zer0]

and yet not of that stuff has been a real problem on any game outside sf4 (and that its debatable)

Its a huge and annoying problem in BBBR

[Hecatom]

The characters talking so much in BB is actually a pretty useful audio cue if you know what to listen for.

For instance, Makoto will say “weaksauce” after instant-blocking, as opposed to her normal blocking grunts, and she’ll say different things after combos to give a general idea of how much damage you’ve done in the combo. If she combos Hazama for 2k she’ll say “That was for Noel”. Hit him with a 5k combo, and she’ll say
"And that was for ME!"

i think tht the real problem is not how much they talk, but that they interrupt what they were saying to say it again, more noticeble when blocking or being hit

Its a huge and annoying problem in BBBR

and that its more about how the mechanic its implemented, and not the mechanic itself
again, they have never been a problem in almost all the games that sport them

[Negative-Zer0]

Interrupting speach makes my ears bleed. I Got I got LETS GO TAKE THAT, I am gonna I am gonna HYAAAAAA, I Got I got <random super> (This is not actual speech from BB Btw)

[keo-bas]

The ability to take timer off outside of practice mode.

[Firekid2468]

i think tht the real problem is not how much they talk, but that they interrupt what they were saying to say it again, more noticeble when blocking or being hit

Yeah, true. >_>

(But that’s what makes FRK Bang so hilarious. ^_^)

[WarlockDLX]

Female characters having manfeet/manhands/manface

ROFL who got manface? ill give you that, almost all the chars got some clodhopper ass feet… especially Ibuki and Makoto, and a lot of people complain on Makotos face but shes supposed to be a kid lol So is Ibuki i think. As well as Sakura. Juri, Chun Li, and Cammy definitely dont got no manliness goin on tho lol

[ilitirit]

If the game allow it than who are we to say so.

Do you understand the point of this thread? This where we discuss things we don’t want to see in fighting games.

Are you serous? you do realize these thing cost time and money? and let net get started on technical issue.

Of course I know that development costs money. In fact, I’m so concerned about companies spending too much money on development that I think they shouldn’t test their games at all since it costs so much in terms of time and resources. /sarcasm

Personally I find the tactic in effective.

I don’t see the point of your response. Why discuss anything we don’t like then?

Certain game are just like that, its by product to system or character design. If your aware of something and choose to ignore it and expect the reality to change for you than its again user error.

Are you aware of the exact issue I’m talking about here? The example I gave is due to the input system being too lenient and hence getting in the way of the player. This isn’t even on the level of trying to walk forward and fireball and then getting a DP, which is something we’ve had to deal with since SFII.

Again, do you understand what this thread is about? I mean, going by your responses it’s like you are of the mind that we shouldn’t complain about stuff that we don’t like in video games. Sure, if I don’t like something in a game I can just choose not to play it, but that’s not the point at all.

[Mightfo]

the roman cancel… i’d love it outside of competitive play, but in a tourney… no no no.

lmao what

[TheDarkPhoenix]

basically what the OP said

[Zane_Hitsurugi]

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