So you expect competent knife work from a boy who’s scared out of his mind about the possibility of going to jail for no reason after his gf threw him under the bus to escape punishment?
I know the cornered rat syndrome and all, but if he really had a knife and he really was an intruder he’d have already used/brandished it when the father went to go get his gun, leaving his daughter alone to be possibly be taken as a hostage or killed.
This is of course assuming he had a knife on him, which the article says he didn’t, only that he made a move to grab something and the father fired on him.
Him not being armed in the end changes the situation, how? Telepathy doesn’t exist. You cannot know for certain if someone is armed, and you don’t wait to find out. Texas law honours this belief. You do not have to wait until the actual danger presents itself, you may apply deadly force if someone’s actions SUGGEST incoming danger. If the father believed the boy was reaching for a weapon, be it a knife, a firearm or even reaching over to a nearby table to grab something, he was within his rights to open fire. The conversation will be captured on the 911 call anyway, so if charges are pressed, they’ll at least get to hear the argument in context.
You don’t need to be competent to slash someone’s arm or get a blade in your abdomen while you russle about on the floor. A real knife confrontation is nothing like a drill.
Put away your t-boosters for one minute and apply some logic. You expect someone, in their own home, to engage with an intruder unarmed. Owning a firearm is not about confidence, it’s about literally having a bigger stick. There’s nothing confident about blowing open a boy’s chest cavity in front of your daughter.
So was this guy fully clothed? When he went to grab something I’m assuming that this guy wasn’t even fully dressed. Because the article says the boy saw two feet sticking out of the bed, not two shoes.
Someone learned a new word looking at their calendar
As for your point, no, no I don’t expect anyone to engage anyone unarmed in their own house. But, if it was actually a grown ass man (say, 20 or 21) in his daughter’s room and not some scared out of his mind teenager I’d be more in line with your thinking. But assuming said teenager had a weapon (and a FUCKING KNIFE OF ALL THINGS) in the first place is asinine, especially one that thought he was getting some that night. So I answered your try hard hypothetical with the appropriate try hard answer you were looking for.
Knowing you have the bigger stick is all about confidence you ass. Confidence in knowing that you can control the situation with the weapon in your hand(s), knowing that if someone makes a wrong move you can stop them from doing so. However, knowing the father was on some medications (probably for physical ailments, since he is on the hefty side) I don’t fault him for grabbing a gun. None of the parties involved were thinking clearly, but in the ideal situation there’s nothing to suggest he couldn’t have kept the safety on if he was just intent on threatening him.
that father didn’t have to kill the boy. at all. he called the cops, he should have held him at gunpoint until they arrived.
the argument angle may or may not be plausible. the other side is dead and can’t tell his story so we have to wait until the facts come out.
the daughter isn’t shit for lying about it. he shouldn’t have been over her house in the first place but those kinds of things happen…they should not end up with a kid dead.
anybody not bent on shooting first in that situation would have “interrogated” the daughter first. kids lie. everyone knows that. especially about sex. the dad lacked common sense. HOWEVER, hindsight is 20/20 as they say and i’m 100% sure that nobody was thinking clearly except for the boy in that situation.
you know he was extra focused in that moment because shit like that gets you from 0-60 in like on second lol. the daughter lied to save her ass and i’m sure would have made the rest up later which would have gotten taken apart asap, the father wasn’t thinking rationally at all and had his gun out in the room with his teenage daughter and a teenage boy, etc. etc.
Probably something along the lines of “Bitch-ass nigga! Yo punk ass need a burner to handle yo business? Man, I’ll kick yo old Family Matters-lookin’ ass!” faked a lunge at Pops to see if he could scare him, gets smoked You know how these young niggas act: always talking shit even when they’re in the wrong, and bouncing around, gesturing wildly like they think they’re onstage at a rap concert. Wrong way to act when there’s a gun on your rusty ass.
How do you know the boy didn’t attack him? I had someone confront me in a train car and reach for their pocket and I instantly sent the dude flying. After I checked his pocket he had a gun. You only have one life, real life is not a video game. If you’re in your own house and some unknown guy is there and no one in your house knows them nor let him in and then the guy jumps you in your own house, you’re going to defend yourself on instinct. Not just yourself, your family as well.
If you see a problem with this then there is something wrong with you and it’s people like you that enable criminals to invade and terrorize others and why people can’t even feel safe in their own home any more.
We know nothing about that though. And I’m still believing he the guy wasn’t fully clothed.
for all we know the guy could have been reaching to whip out his dick, on some degenerate level swiss cheese masterbator shit, the article don’t explain enough, and it never will.
the only one that could truly explain themselves now sports a tag on his pinky toe.
You mean to tell me you’d let a dude who’s been in your house, in your daughter’s room, knows where everything is, knows HOW TO GET INTO YOUR HOUSE go free so he could possibly get in again? Yeah, right.
I dislike guns. But if a supposed unknown man is in his home, the dad had every right to arm himself, feel threatened, and if a quick decision was made to shoot, I’m okay with that.
Pretty much the only way I would find fault is if it’s 100% clear the “invader” was rendered harmless. Locked by himself in a room, already tied up/beaten up, etc.
If you get caught in a situation like that the worst thing you can do is hang around and keep escalating the situation. The kid would be alive today if he would have just bolted out of the house after getting caught. I am willing to bet that he tried to step up to the father and be a hard ass which is probably why he is dead. I don’t think the killing was justified, but the father was probably not exactly in a logical state of mind.
No one did the right thing in this situation, a kid is dead, a father has to deal with the fact he killed someone, and a girl has to deal with the fact that she got her boyfriend killed. People saying the father was right to just straight up shoot and kill someone are right terrify the fuck out of me, I don’t care if it’s allowed by the law that shit is horrifying if you go to that option so quickly.
Do wish we had more details on what happened though, probably never gonna get them.
You deserve to die in a B&E if you think people shouldn’t take precautions, which might end up with the death of somebody during a bizarre scenario, when an unknown intruder is in their fucking house. Yes everything that happened is a shame, but the only people at fault were the kids. The dad did what he thought was right to protect his family. It ended with tragedy, but don’t for a minute think what he did was wrong.
I’m just curious if when the daughter was claiming she didn’t know the guy, why didn’t he just name her name and school, and mention her as well, and some teachers or something.
edit: two feet sticking out under the bed. Isn’t that how they catch EVERYBODY in cartoons?
