While a lot of mods for most of these games on the nexus, consist of lore breaking anime styled doll and other oddity things, most and majority of the mods don’t. And that’s a pretty f’d up generalization, especially since you just proved you hadn’t even really looked through what’s available, to say that it’s 90%. Rotten apple spoils the bunch mentality, but these aren’t apples.
If you want me to list some great essential mods, I can.
To put what you said into an analogy, one could say fighting gamers are full of yellow fever having virgins, that play doujin fighters, and would eat up your mentioned modded content. Melty, Arcana, etc etc. And have you seen some of the stuff that’s made on mugen? But that’s not really the case is it? It’s a pretty immature and ignorant generalization, because it’s not even true for the majority.
Am I mad? Nah, cause it doesn’t really affect me, and I also am not a fan of the anime stuff cause it doesn’t fit into what I perceive the game should be like. But, it’s kind of messed up for you to generalize the modding community like that, given how a lot of these modders don’t take the anime route with their content(but fortunately, or unfortunately, some of the most popularly endorsed mods do), and everyone making mods(anime styled or not) put a lot of time and work into it, to the good of everyone playing and wanting to enjoying them.
I’d like to see MMM brought to New Vegas or at least a mod that increases enemy spawns. Fights are harder to come across in NV compared to FO3. I still haven’t discovered the equivalent to Evergreen Mills or the Capital Mall in NV, where I could return there every couple days and fight a nice number of Raiders or Super Mutants for XP.
I even wiped out every Legion camp hoping they start dispatching parties against me periodically ala Talon Company in FO3 but so far nothing. Probably because I completed some quests for them prior and my rep may be stuck in Neutral (I’m not Vilified by them despite murdering their leader).
I’ve worked with the G.E.C.K and have made personal mods but increasing spawn rates and random encounters is going to require changing game scripts, which is one thing I’m not that good at.
so my favorite gun so far is the Garand, called “This Machine” in game. Apparently it’s a reference to Woody Guthrie’s guitar. Woody Guthrie was a folk singer who railed against corruption and the man during the Depression. On his guitar, he wrote “This Machine Kills Fascists”.
if you look on the garand itself, you can read the words “Well This Machine Kills Commies”. Made me laugh.
you can skip step 3 and still end up with a lot of pornish mods in the top 100. Far, far porn mods than I’ve seen for any other game… ever… except for Second Life
Well, what he’s saying is true. A lot of the mods, hell, most for FO3 even, were pretty much “wasteland seduction” and other stuff like that. We talked about this before too. It’s just a fact that a lot of people make these types of mods. Maybe he exaggerated with the 90%, but you kinda got on him for that and it wasn’t necessary.
FO3 was solid even without mods. NV just really needs them though because of how buggy this game is and how questionable a lot of the game design decisions were. NV incorporated a lot of mods from FO3 but a lot of it is also half assed, it almost seems like they just threw shit in and didn’t even think about it. The mod community for NV got on the job really quick, I think partly it’s due to the fact that the game is similar to FO3 so a lot of mods could be designed quicker or even ported, and partly I think modders felt forced to mod this because of how buggy and incomplete this game was. I feel like for NV mods are an absolute necessity, which is an indictment on Obsidian.
Bottom line is this game fails hard and the modding isn’t really an enhancement in this game, but rather it is a saving feature that Obsidian can’t even take credit for. That doesn’t make Obsidian worthy of praise or anything. If anything, they should stop selling the console versions and cut the price of the PC version by half, since they can’t really say they are responsible for most of the good things about this game anymore, since they screwed it up so much.
I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but I’ve never seen anything like this before honestly. This game was released in such a terrible state.
I havent noticed many bugs yet. Just the same shit from fallout 3 pretty much. None of it really bothers me either because I like the game that much.
Im really glad im not a pc gamer. PC gamers seem like they are never happy about anything unless they can alter it themselves. And then they like to argue about the alterations they make.
I appreciate the time and effort spent the modders spend making mods, and I enjoy the very good mods there, cause they just keep extending the life of these enjoyable games. There’s really nothing for me to be mad about, coming from you. I just came to the defense against someone attempting to blanket the mod selection, effectively turning off anyone that might be on the fence about checking the good ones out.
Can you answer these questions: Are you trolling? Why you got an asian sounding screen name, and an anime avatar saying all this? Why come at me with such a narrow minded point of view about all this?
Unfortunate thing on the matter is some of the most endorsed and downloaded mods, will be porn like ones, because sex sells and there’s plenty of horny teenagers all over the internets, making those mods and downloading them.
Please trust that I’m not mad at all, and I could easily get foul and hurl insults left and right at you, old srk. But that just wouldn’t get a positive result from anything, and would effectively make this much lamer.
To anyone that’s got the PC version of these games and are on the fence about checking out some mods, don’t sway based on this guy. The majority of the stuff there, isn’t like what he’s saying. It’s pretty funny of sakeido to judge 10,000+ mods from a top 100 that’s not even filled up with what he says. And sakeido ignored my offer about listing up some good ones.
This started off as a point of argument toward what I was saying, and then the rest of what you said I already agree with.
The only thing that’s not correct about what you’re saying right now is that most of the mods are “wasteland seduction”. They’re not. It’s alot of them, that’s for sure, but it most definitely is not most or even 90%. Leave those mods to the horny teenagers or whomever that enjoy them. That’s the point I’m trying to make, it’s not the majority, it’s just the most prolific, and shouldn’t be judged upon as the whole representation.
Just do what I do, and ignore those mods and get the stuff you’d really want to use. The selection is large.
EDIT: also you seem to not understand, that for Fallout 3, the modding community did the samething as to what the modding community is doing for New Vegas(fixing bugs and all that - there’s a large unofficial patch that fixed bugs even the GOTY didn’t). And then soon enough, you’ll see the oddity mods come in too, cause the people that like them and use them want them, the same as we want mods that fix and enhance the shit we want from the game.
Some people want a bug fixing mod, but don’t even want to dabble in the community at all. And some bug fixing mods are just really small files that you can download without even signing up to the nexus, so that effectively drops off a large number of possible endorsements that would put mods of this nature above the sex ones that get rated so high.
hahaha man I’ve seen games like this before… New Vegas is a real throwback to the late 1990s computer gaming scene. A potentially-very-awesome core game hobbled by a serious lack of polish, balance issues, and good ol’ fashioned programming bugs.
There are good Oblivion mods for sure. I always got a kick out of Deadly Reflex and I used a lot of appearance mods to make the environments better. I had a lot of basic weapon and armor mods too… honestly when I played Oblivion, I spent most of time gathering loot and then sitting up in display cases and shelves in my house so all my fav mods were ones that gave me more places to set up my shit, or better looking weapons and armor sets to show off.
One mod I would have appreciated more was something to make random encounters in the wilderness more interesting.
I am trolling yes. Plus, my avatar is from Fist of the North Star… its a manime not an anime. :lol:
The thing is that it is not horny teenagers making some of these mods… I can’t recall the exact mod, but it was basically a pack of slinky lingerie and schoolgirl outfits for one of the better body mods. It was AWESOMELY well done… It had more effort and artistic skill invested in it than any of the serious mods I was able to find.
I’m wondering that myself, which is why I’m waiting for a mod that increases the spawn rate so whenever I do get into firefights I have more things to kill.
Of course that only applies to PC, if you’re on console I can really only recommend completing all the quests you encounter. You could probably, as long as you aren’t killing every npc you meet, finish 60-70 quests easily in one play through before completing all the main story quests. There are a ton of speech checks too in NV compared to FO3 so playing a high speech, coupled with high science and lock picking character can net you a good sum of bonus XP just from exploring and talking to people.
I don’t have many good location tips for combat focused characters, which is what I tend to play. I really just wander around until I find some critters to shoot. There’s the Quarry Junction for Death Claws but they don’t respawn after you’ve killed them and another area a little west of The Strip that has a lot of Cazadores spawning there but yeah… Cazadores absolutely destroy you if you get swarmed by them. At least with Death Claws you can try to fight them 1 v 1.
Deadly Reflex is pretty cool. Even though this a fallout thread, someone brought up Deadly Reflex a couple pages ago, too. And it’s a coincidence cause the dude that makes it, just put out a trailer for part 6… and part had 5 came out 2 years ago so this one might be huge.
Also check out Unnecessary Violence, it’s a mod that lets you dual wield weapons, make two handed weapons switch from two handed to one handed if you want, you can throw people, you can throw weapons, and other cool stuff.
Again man, if you would’ve just said this in the first place then I couldve listed some good shit.
Check out Oscuro’s Oblivion Overhaul(OOO) and Martigen’s Monster Mod(MMM).
Matter fact, take it a step further and put them together with FCOM. The install takes awhile and is annoying at first, cause there’s so much stuff. But when you put it all together the game is just on some whole nother thing.
Every encounter in the game for you would be random as hell, guaranteed with that in there. In the wilderness, in towns, in caves, in sewers, in gates. Everywhere.
There’s some really epic quests too, there’s a huge one called The Lost Spires, and someone else just released some stand alone Oblivion expansion called Nehrim.
It is one, that’s true.
Yeah, it’s just how it is. Some of the modders there, are Japanese though, and they make the most asinine shit I’ve ever seen. Seriously perverted stuff that I feel ashamed even playing the game that those kinds of mods are made for. Especially some of the Japanese made fallout 3 mods, I swear man, don’t even check em out, it ain’t cool.
Cube Experimental quest mod for FO3 is better than most paid DLC from actual game developers. Looking at you BioWare and your Dragon Age and Mass Effect DLCs (minus Shadow Broker).
I’ve found going west and northwest of Bitter Springs has a ton of enemies (mostly ghouls and cazadores). Clearing that entire area up to Devil’s Gulch is a ton of XP. I usually visit every several in-game days.
I have a much easier time with the Cazadores than the deathclaws honestly. I always seemed to get swarmed by 3 deathclaws and they can randomly kill me with one shot half the time. Against the regular deathclaws at least I have a shot if I put up my block. Against the Alpha and Mother ones even if I’m blocking I generally will just die. It’s like OG Punch Out against Tyson, I can block up to one and have a pixel left, and the next one puts me down.
With the Cazadores, they have a pretty long attack animation actually, and they usually just go down to one swing from Pushy. Even if you’re swarmed by 5, you ought to be able to flat out take down 3 and you can just swing away for the next 2 outside of VATs. Against deathclaws anytime I enter Vats in unarmed I die, so I gave up on that.
I believe outside of Cazadores the Legion camps and powder ganger camps do respawn. I’m all but certain the Geckos respawn, and quite a few of the Gecko types will give you the max XP. Actually I think they level up with you too, so after a certain level they should be giving you the max XP too. Heading south from goodspring source will usually get you geckos. Also if you are playing a survival character that’s a great source of getting food.
Outside of that there are a ton of places in this game that you should be able to visit and get the requisite XP. It’s kind of impossible to clear every single spot.
So far I’ve only fought the smaller cazadores, and they were pretty tough too. I had to fight like 5 at once with my boxing gloves character. I used the ranger knockdown, and then punched them unconscious with the golden gloves, and then wailed on them with brass knuckles.
Personally, I have the exact opposite outlook on the game. New Vegas is awesome, the choices I make and the world as it exists seems really good to me. The writing is top notch, the world feels real and not copy pasted, and I feel that my experience was over 10x as enjoyable as fallout 3. FO3 was so bland and boring that I never brought myself to beat it. That game just had no style and felt more like a JRPG than New Vegas, I.E. Linear and my choices don’t actually mean shit.
New Vegas made me feel each of my choices were meaningful, and all the skills I have are useful. The main story line was interesting enough to keep me engrossed, and upon arriving at New Vegas so many end game choices opened up I was floored at first with all the options. I never once had that sort of feeling in FO3.
The bugs, glitches, etc are blown way out of proportion IMO. At least from my personal experience I’ve seen very little game breaking bugs (never saw the save corruption that most people had, which was patched on PC the first few days anyway by disabling the steam cloud). A few quests that had to be restarted because the complexities of the order they could be completed in caused some conflicts, and maybe 1-2 that were really buggy and hard to complete properly (but were sidequests). Hardly a failure in my book.
But what truly is facepalm worthy to me is people slamming the game because theres no places to go and endlessly grind experience. I mean, seriously? I understand why you guys might not like the game with that point of view. This isn’t a grindfest where you kill just to get stronger like some mindless JRPG.
The entire point of this game is that you as a character get caught up in the center of this huge point in US history where the Mojave desert is in the middle of being rebuilt for the future. There is 3 major factions warring for control over the area, along with 4-5 smaller factions existing in the same place as well. You as a character can choose the destiny of the region from your choices, and at the end of the game you get a custom ending detailing the future of the region based on each and every choice you made.
How, in a game based around this premise, does the lack of fields with enemies to mindlessly grind make it a bad thing? How in any way does that advance the story or help the game world out? It doesn’t.
Theres plenty of games that cater to that style of game (FF, Dragon Quest, FO3 from the sounds of it) but to imply that makes NV inferior in any way, shape or form is to completely miss the point of the game.
I actually like NV more than FO3 and for all the reasons you just listed. Thing is I’ve already completed practically every quest there is to do in the game (approx 80 marked ones on my list), every unmarked quest aside from the repeatable ones like turning in dogtags as well as all the companion quests and made all relevant faction decisions save for the final story related one and clicked through every line of dialogue I’ve come across. Considering you can’t continue playing the game and have to reload after finishing the last story mission there really is nothing left to do other than to grind XP off enemies and discover any remaining locations that may have been missed.
As for the Cazadores vs Death Claws discussion. My unarmed is 20, I play a guns character so vs DCs I can sneak attack critical one of them from distance and hopefully knock its health down to half before it notices me and starts charging or if I’m lucky am able to cripple one of its legs. Versus Cazadores I don’t have the luxury of swinging my fists and knocking them down. They fly too erratically/fast for me to aim at them in real time. Spraying with automatics isn’t effective and I’ll use up all my AP targeting the first Caz then proceed to get gang raped by his 4 buddies that linked when he aggroed.
