Yeah If he does TC to shoulder you just have to take the chip. If you’re midscreen it’s pretty decent to jump back here actually as it will punish a followup st.mp or st.hk if you hk spiral on reaction to him hitting a button. It will also get upkicks if he tries to go nuts, or NJ if he was trying to scout out what you were doing(say punish an attempted st.hk or w/e). You can followup the spiral with dp if he tried to st.hk, nj, or upkicks too.
If he hits a button on the neutral jump you’ll usually trade at worst, and it’s usually in your favor in both terms of damage and positioning too.
You can also just reversal EX Scramble and put him in a mixup.
Did you test it? It’s been a while but the issue I recall wasn’t the range, it was having enough time to reach. Teleporting is probably faster than the slide having to actively travel (though there shouldn’t be too much of a difference) but then you have to be a bit more precise with your timing. Reversal slide into immediate followup doesn’t work at a few distances, that I know for sure.
Anyone got any information on rolento matchups? A good rolento player can shit on my decapre:(
I’m 3300pp and 11100bp and have found no help anywhere else regarding the matchup. It seems like he can totally control the fight with his roly poly thing lol
Playing decapre online is pretty much a waste of time. You can get away with a lot of bullshit and she relies on a lot of tight links and timings to use her setups to their full potential. I have played her to about 6000bp on PC and xbox and I’m pretty over it (kind of over playing online in general)
Vs rolento you just jab the rolls before they even get to you or dp them if the are far enough away. Use st jab or cl mp to stuff pogos. You can punish some blocked rolls with u2. He has to take more of a risk than you do to get in. Learn save jumps and setups he has no good reversal. I pressure him with throws a lot. Not sure what else to say other than learn how to block his pogo bullshit and escape it with jabs
Looking at this thread there doesn’t seem to be much info on the Honda matchup as far as punishing headbutt outside of U2. So I went into training mode and tried to figure out what you can do.
I found she can’t punish any of them without U2 outside of EX Headbutt (Sting can punish very likely can do more). I am not a good lab monster but what I tried was st mk/hp/hk, inch forward slightly with the same buttons, reversal RES and hands.
Am I missing something, screwing up timing or can she literally not punish regular headbutts? As I said I am not the best lab monster.
no headbutts are punishable with slide despite HP headbutt being -16
HP Headbutt is punishable with All versions of hands. headbutt must be stand blocked.
MP + LP Headbutt are unpunishable (except by u2)
EXCEPT when honda is in the corner. the moves are -8 for EX, -9 for LP, -13 for MP and -16 for HP and you are pretty much right next to him… in which case all headbutts can be punished with any medium or hard button or just striaght up stinger
you can also land slides in the corner but just against HP headbutt… but if you want to use slide why dont you just go cr mk xx Slide and get the extra damage
EX Headbutt changes depending on where honda is when he starts the headbutt. if he is right up next to you you can hit him with literally any button, so do your combo of choice. you CANNOT punish him with raw hands reversal, you have to hit him with a button, but i mean why wouldnt you want the extra damage
now if honda is far away, he only has to be like half a training square away, you can only hit him with Stinger, st FP, or st HK. cr MK or st MP will not reach. so if you do not have down charge you have to just clip him with a st hard button for 100ish damage. you can block these crouching, but if you are crouching you might as well stinger for knockdown, carry, and damage.
Ok yeah seems you must stand block. Still kind of unfortunate she can’t do much about MP headbutt as its hard to tell which version is being done unless you are full screen
OK man just have to say you are not doing something right… i just tested it again its 100% working all versions of hands you MUST STAND BLOCK IT though!
Oh whoops sorry I must have posted at the same time wasn’t trying to be a dick but yeah try again honda can punish hp headbutt with u1 but has to be standing as well it reduces the pushback I think
Meh I did say I am not a good lab monster. Still kinda sad at how little damage you do on him outside of EX hands punish due to a fair amount of the stabs whiffing. Its more than the chip he does at least. Ok now to figure out how to beat his second annoying tool beyond psychic read with focus or make it whiff (Buttslam, yeah I do not face Honda much and the few I have are merely trolls). Namely how to meaty him without buttslam beating it (most of the startup is strike invul on all versions)