If you want to beat buttslam just cross him up
yeah buttslam can’t hit you crouching, however it can cross you up near point blank if you’re standing, so be aware of that.
Need help against Ryu plz…
ultra choice : u1
i always find a good ryu is very difficult to approach regardless who you are using. you have to back him into the corner if you want any chance of winning this match, i think this is more important against ryu, guile, chun li than any other characters in the game that i can think of because they dont have the best escapes. when i have them in the corner, its much easier to react to their jumps. many ryus use an airborne tatsu to try to escape so make sure you nj fp or just cl st mp to shut it down so he doesnt get out. stand quite far away from him, like 3/4 screen and weave in and out of that range to trick him into making a bad move or jump. this is really where you need to focus on doing damage. you can also use EX spiral to keep him from getting out too if you catch him getting antsy. you can use foxtail after he has sucessfully turtled up.
now getting him into the corner, u1 is a great tool if you are down in health. dont set it up randomly make sure its off a knockdown (esp a hard knockdwon) to get a decent opportunity for it to hit. i normally edge forward with foxtails to maintain my down charge and minimize my time open but you can also use ground pounds to build meter as you back him up. be careful because both these moves give him opportunities to escape. its best to let him think you are sitting on down charge and see if he will jump it and let him eat the chip and lose the spacing instead of letting him escape the ultra completely and put you at starting position agian. if he is doing cr mk you have to stand at the right range and beat it with your mid/hard buttons. its not easy. its something that takes a lot of work to bait correctly. try it out in training room to figure out ranges you can stuff that move and make sure you utilize standing and crouching options.
when he throws fireballs you are best to neutral jump or block them for the most part. you can fadc through but be careful he can catch you with an ex fireball. also when you nj he can fadc and smoke you so watch your distance and his meter. look for a read on any sort of patterns he may use, thats when you utilize slide or ex scramble. when you knockdown with slide you can do Hi Angle scramble divekick to make DP whiff and cross up so its a very strong setup against most ryus. even if they know the setup they may be hesitant to late autocorrect DP it incase it does happen to hit in front or you feint with LP. you can also use MP stinger to build meter through ex / hp fireballs but be very careful of range, should be full screen when using this.
be careful sticking out raw pokes. st fp and st hk have very long recoveries and if he happens to jump it you’re fkd. better to use the mp and mk buttons for the most part but the hard buttons have their uses.
good ryus dont throw bad fireballs so u2 is almost useless against anyone good other than a combo confirm. if you hop over a fireball its quite easy to confirm to u2 off a stinger + 2 bars for 500 damage or just raw j HK U2 so its not without use.
sorry thats all i have time for right now, i think i covered most things i think about. the emphasis is walking him backwards as much as you can. stay away from scramble gimmicks - they can be useful when you have fallen behind and catching bad jumps / air tatsus but for the most part you need to stay solid and be hard to approach just like he is and scare him back. when you become cornered you can use ex scramble to escape but good ryus will sit at 1/2 - 3/4 screen if they are expecting scramble and can easily punish, so use this gap to walk your way out and start making a comeback.
U2 is better than u1 in that mu
Wtf whith “good ryus dont throw bad fireballs”
Even then the whole idea about u2 is the “threat factor”. U2 is an automatic shutdown to ryus fireball game is not just a combo ender. All of you that think like that need to re evaluate your thought process.
U2 > W > U1
The only reason to use either W or U1 is against weak ryus meaning bad ryus because those players lack in the fundamental Part of the game so you cant go ham w/o worries
god you are aggressive.
in my experience slide is enough of a deterrant for ryus to stop throwing predictable fireballs whne you have a back charge. u2 is not an “automatic shudown of fireballs” its only when you have charge. if you play against anyone good, you would know this. i have played against john choi who is probably one of the best ryus on the planet and he only throws fireballs the moment you walk forwards. i would like to see anyone, infiltration, hoodaman, ves, whoever, name names, land a u2 against him through his fireball.
the fact that you think u2 is just a threat factor makes an even stronger argument towards double ultra. if its just a threat factor the damage is a non-issue. actually the one thing i missed on u2 was the fact its a great anti air and all you need is a back charge.
u1 is an amazing tool for backing ryu into the corner which is really the only place you can fight him effectively. i wasnt trying to say u2 sucks actaulyl i made quite a few points as to why its good and i believe ves says he uses u1 in this matchup as well and i respect his opinion as a player because i have actually watched footage of him playing against legit people and seen how he plays. i could be wrong though maybe he said u2. as far as you though i havent ever heard of you to be honest but i dont watch a ton of tournaments either so i wouldnt count you out automatically but if i had some reason to believe that you are actually even a good player in the first place i might take your opinion more seriously. not trying to start a dick measuring contest about me being better than you or anything i just think you dont really contribute anything or help anyone you just act like a douche which doesnt help build the community.
I prefer W vs. Ryu personally because I think people still panic and make shitty decisions vs. u1.
My reasoning towards u1 is I find even when I do stick the u2 it feels like the damage isn’t worth it when double is equipped. But you can’t argue the fact u1 is pretty hard to connect with consistency
W would be better with 75% scaling
60% scaling makes me want to punch babies
I think its because her ultras are so good. Its a shame though.
I use W or U1 more than I ever pick U2
I mean you can choose u2 in any matchup just because it’s a high chance of combo.
What do you guys think about my approach, I play this match very slow and calculated. I take a large majority of my damage from safe jump setups with good mixup, not in the neutral game. I see a lot of players hang themselves against good zoning using bad approaches , I know I am guilty of it. Would like to hear your thoughts on how decapre should play this match. Do you take more risks trying to start a mixup ?
anybody had any thoughts on the adon matchup? I got mauled by knockdown jump ins and can’t hit his jump arc at all.
it sucks if you auto pilot your stings
you need to either block or try a very hard auto correct sting ala guile jump cancel flash kick
some set ups can be avoided with wake up dash too
knock him down first.
well i have never really played any good adons with decapre cause to be honest there are very few people in the world who are even good with him… anyway i just reaction DP all his special moves, that seems to be all most adon players do is spam jagga kick / jagga tooth and have no semblence of good footsies. tbh i think you can play a pretty even footsies game against him just dont use your focus attack too much he has a lot of moves that break it especially his main footsies tool st hk is 2 hits. hes easy as fuck to safe jump use hands or slide and it will fuck his day up. honestly his wake up stuff is not hard to deal with at all just block forwards his jump takes ages to get over you so you can reaction block cross up if you see its not gonna be a IAJT
hey you really like to give the hard secret tech away dont ya
lol i mean theres so many ways to make his DP whiff its hilarious… even a jump cross up lk will make it whiff most of the time
Is there a Decapre facebook page, it would be so much easier for matchmaking. I am a part of one FB page, but all those fuckers are like Brazilian and I have 0 idea what they are saying.