you mean the prize money for first was what drew the japanese
You’re right, but it was great for us too in that it’s helping us build a stronger player base, through stronger competition. Since Alex G, Flash, and Marn’s team, as well as Team Chi and Team Bama(thanks, walt), has shown the community that the japanese GG players CAN be beaten, you can bet that everyone else is going to be cramming for next year. you can bet that, with the upcoming US release, there will be more US GG players next year. All I ask is one more year of representation.
On the flip side, I think the GG community should know something:
Despite all the complaints from some of the GG players, Evo has provided an awesome venue for us all. I don’t think we’d be able to play so many great international players without it.
ummmm they werent the only us team to beat a japanese team
team bama: beat MIU’s team in winners (MIU’s team sent alexg marn, flash to losers)
team chi: knocked them out the tourney
i forgot who sent yossan team to losers in pools
Well, fuck, I’ll edit the post. Sorry, I’m going from the brackets. 
Where’d you find all that out?
FROM ATTENDING EVO.
I ran gg pools a&b, and semis in the same amount of time it takes people to run a 14 man 3s tourney
When you say that you guarantee something we expect some dollar numbers attached to it. Random good player playing for 4 years is no JWong playing for 3 months IMO. Look at Tekken results from last year and you’ll see that.
That’s a perfect sentence. They don’t want to. But they do get out of their own game to play others. A Marvel player like JWong played and placed in several games throughout the years. Non-Marvel players try to do the same. All fighting gamers do that, except Smash players. Maybe you guys are more skilled than sports players . You just don’t give a damn about the overall fighting games community. If that’s the case, you’re arguing against Smash at Evo. And yes, the traditional fighting game players are not helping the Smash community. But, as some guy pointed out, this is Evo, not Smash Fest.
You’re incorrect. Smash brought less numbers and hype than 3S, and not an inch of Marvel’s hype. What’s the biggest MM in Smash history? 10 bucks? I don’t mean to insult your scene, which surely is great, but IMO you should stop saying things like this. I just read that interview and your champion not only call things cheap, but also do not practice. You have no evidence backing the smash-demands-more-skill speech, and no evidence about Smash bringing in more hype than games like MvC2.
I accept they have talent. I jsut have difficulty accepting your point that Smash players, who never even played arcade competition, are the deepest, most talented of them all. Or that Smash gets much more hype than JWong vs DPC or Duc vs Sanford. That’s the high horse I was talking about on my first message abut this.
I want to look at it during the MM. If it happens it would be cool. But, asides from you and me, almost nobody else seems to give a damn. If the Smash players can throw some good money at it, I’m sure the Marvel players will do the same.
Let’s take this by PM if you want to follow through and see what we can do to make it happen, without getting in the way of this thread’s purpose.
Back on Evo X, less games and more side events are cool IMO. And to whoever said it. please stop talking about what is played in Japan. Evo is in America.
Ken has talent, like Daigo. Daigo only practiced for CvS2 last year for EVO and got top 8 on CvS2, AE, and GG and top 16 at 3S. Daigo quit for like a year … while Ken only quitted for three months. Not saying the CvS2, AE, and GG takes no skill; I am just using it as an argument. SSB definitely takes skill and is very in depth. Why don’t you try the game yourself? It is lots of fun.
Also, how many fighters are for GC at Evo this year anyways? 1
If 3S was for GC and arcade perfect, I think there would be a lot more players.
Why would I buy a console that I might not use?
3S, CvS2, and ST has PS2. It simple has the console advantage.
It is kind of like me asking you to buy a GC for Smash.
Also, those games are also for the arcade. Even if you do not own a PS2/PS3, you might have a chance to play the games if there is an arcade near you that has them.
Since JWong/Daigo/[Others] can place top 16 at ST/CvS2/3S, doesn’t that also mean that the games are simple enough that it allows those players to be good at all of them AND placing high? Now I know that this is not true. I know this because the Japanese always dominate at Evolution events and most of them only dominate at 1 game except for Daigo at his prime and Nuki. lol
Also, I do not think playing one exclusive game is bad. It can bring games to the next level. Look at KO/Kokujin/Nitto, they only play 3S. This is why they dominate at 3S; with the competition at Japan as a factor. People play SSB exclusively because they want to bring the game to the next level. Same thing for most people that plays MvC2. Though, some people have talent such as Nuki/Daigo and can dominate in multiple games.
Seriously, how many people do you know that plays all 3S/CvS2/MvC2/ST seriously and are good at it? There is only a few (20 at most). I don’t see a lot of MvC2 players play CvS2/3S/ST. I don’t see many 3S players play Marvel/CvS2/ST. They don’t need to support other games and neither do the Smash community. When I mean good, I meant competitions at its highest.
Do not give use JWong as an example. The man is good, but only at the US scene. The only game he can dominate is MvC2 and maybe CvS2. He has no chance at 3S/ST at Japan. No offense.
I mean, if you just count players and they don’t have to be good … my crew and I plays 3S/DR/SC3/SSBM. So that is like 10 people right here. Do we count as SSBM players playing 3S? I am sure there are a lot more people like us.
Dota for EVO, bet it.
jk
Sorry, gotta give my shoutout to Dirty Tokido. I think you could probably count on one hand the number of Japanese players who are as good at multiple games as Tokido is right now. That man is beastly. 
Oh yeah, Tokido’s Claw and A-Groove is madness. He also got 2nd at 3S. I should slap myself for forgetting him. Ino’s Makoto and K-Groove are sick as well. I want to see Ino’s K-Groove at top 4 next year. Both men are crazy!
I think both Nuki/Tokido will top 8 at 3S/CvS2/ST next year. Bet it! :tup:
Justin has no chance in 3S…looks at evo 2k5 results
looks at SBO4 results
As I said, I do not think he has a chance at 3S in Japan. I am not saying all Japanese are good because that is like saying all Asians knows martial arts. Though seriously, the Japanese always dominate at Evolution except for AE. Again, no offense. If Nitto/Nuki/Tokido were at the same pool as JWong at evo2k5, I do not think that he would have made it to the semi-finals.
Double elimination is only accurate to the best and the 2nd best. With pools in the mix, it is really only accurate to the best because the 2nd best might have been knocked to the loser’s bracket at the semi-finals due to the pools; therefore, giving him/her the disadvantage.
If 40 of the best players in Japan for CvS2/ST/3S were to come to Evolution, would it be hard to believe that the top 8 for CvS2/ST/3S would be all Japanese? For 3S, definitely IMO. As for CvS2/ST, I would say that 12 out of the top 16 would be Japanese, at least. However, this excludes Evo South/West/East/North, considering that those players are automatically put to top 16 … I think. Also, the pools should be split up that every pool would have at least 8 Japanese players.
I give props to JWong to stay top at so many games at the US scene though.
Tokido also won the Samurai Showdown Tenka tournament with ease.
Im pretty sure it was Juicy G / Blacksnake / AKA first round…
The players were put into top 48/64, not top 16.
In most older games, Japan is not a level above, they just have more people at each of the same levels, so it would break down like:
Top 8, Japans best 3-5 + US’s best 3-5
Top 16, Japans best 10 + US’s best 6, in any order
Top 64, Japans best 40 + US’s best 24, in any order
etc… So it’s highly unlikely that japan would sweep top 8 in any game even if they sent 500 players.
There are individuals that are always been top placers, Justin in Marvel, Nuki in 3s, Ken in smash, but it’s not like there are 20 people just like them just waiting for plane tickets.
Justin Wong vs Ken or PC_Chris.
Make it happen
DO IT!!! =p
Edit: On the subject of games that should be at EVO in all honesty it should only be capcom games at EVO. This is shoryuken.com after all not tekken.com or whatever the hell its called. I cant speak for everyone but i go to EVO to play capcom games not tekken or SC no offense to the players of those games. Just my 2 cents…
-Nelson
just vs. who and who?
justin vs. combofiend plz!!!
cvs/3s/marvel/st/ggxx
OHHH YESSSSSS
Perhaps, but in my mind, for 3S at least, if the top 8 is suppose to consist the best 8 players in the world, they would all be Japanese. For ST, I can see that split being 4 Japanese / 4 Americans. As for CvS2, I think the split would be 5 Japanese / 3 Americans … Ricky/Buktooth/Combofiend being the Americans.