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I for one am glad we have a thread so the new members can show their true opinions :clapdos:
How the fuck did you end up posting here? If you’d bothered to read…I don’t know, more than one thread or so, you’d see your bullshit isn’t going to find itself a cozy home here.
I completely and totally respect your opinion. Despite that, it’s about as welcome as a hip-hop discussion at the KKK forums.
I’m actually surprised, I thought everyone was tired of the same Street Fighter formula, I guess not.
No, I meant most people are, but then there’s you guys.
The general census? Don’t give me that bullshit. There’s a reason why the Oscars are a group of elites and that’s because the general census is retarded. Look at the filth that wins Grammys and the Music Video Awards. That’s all the general census’ doing.
Why do you believe that your ideas have to replace the current standard? You said you dont like Chess or checkers or any competitive game. You prefer to play by yourself. The problem is that the whole genre of fighting games revolves around competition much like how you can’t play chess by yourself. You don’t like it, but others do and since the world doesn’t revolve around the individual you’ll have to deal with that.
I can’t stand MMORPGs. In fact, I really don’t like playing RPGs anymore. Its not that they suck, its just that I dont like playing by myself leveling up virtual characters. My mind is not challenged and I feel my time is wasted. However, you don’t see me demanding their adaptation to my own personal whims. Some people like RPGs and are entitled to them as long as they sell.
Your idea on limitations and boundaries are also incorrect.
Limitations in games are what make games games. I can’t remember what famous developer said this but basically if you take too free of a sandbox approach your game world falls apart. All games incorporate gravity. Imagine if you they didn’t and you could just fly straight to the last boss. Not much fun now is it?
Fighting games have certain mechanics and things in place that both players must overcome to be supreme. These are the things that you can’t see from casually viewing but only when you are actively playing. Thats why your statement of “all fighting games are similar” is ludicrous because those of us who play fighting games could list millions of things different about them.
Chess is timeless because in order to reign supreme, you must master the playfield and adapt to your surrounding. Since you are so into realism you should know that limitations on the player is more true to real life than having a sandbox approach. Becoming Ultra powerful by destroying the same thing again and again doesn’t work in the real world and isn’t realistic.
Not all things need to evolve either. The sport of Basketball, Football, Soccer, and Baseball have remained pretty much the same for years and years with only minor adjustments to the rules. Yet you don’t see people saying “well, lets add more customization to the field and random elements to bring it in the 21st century.” Why fix something that isn’t broke.
Your ideas are nothing new and are present in other single player brawlers and fighters. In fact, I suggest you check out Fighter Maker 2 if you want to customize and make your own fighters . http://ps2.ign.com/objects/481/481760.html
This thread needs to be closed because fighting games are not going away. The genre can be expanded to add different types of fighting games, but Street Fighter will always be Street Fighter.
And thats how the people on this board want it to be. If you are truly passionate about this, I suggest you become a developer yourself and make the perfect game and see if you can find an audience.
But what you are doing here is as silly as an inexperienced chess player going up to chess grandmasters and demanding that their favorite game be changed to meet his personal needs.
It’s trolls like Playcircus that make me miss the “Needs to go die in a fire.” rep rank.
That shit was soooooo apt.
But they suck!
I’m going where the expert consensus (of the general audience) goes for their pro tips!
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Why has www.playcircus.com closed shop?
Dammit - I needs my fighting games fix!
This is probably my favourite troll in the thread.
WTF, this whole board is dedicated to competitive fighting games, and you come in here and say “fighting games are stupid because they’re competitive, they should be something I can just play on my own”…
wha…whu…aaah…
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ahh…
GO AWAY!
I’m going to have to interject here. I don’t think he was arguing about SF but of the genre as an entity - and the genre would benefit from considerably different games than just SF and it’s 2D variants. That’s not saying SF is bad, or even that there is a better way, just that change is good every now and then.
And can we stop with the chess metaphors please? SF is not chess. At. All. SF is no where near as purely cerebral as chess and people who think so are rather deluded. Also, this is not like walking up to chess grandmasters and saying, “please change your game.” Chess has stayed roughly the same since its inception. Street Fighter?
I, II, II Turbo, Super Street Fighter II, Super Street Fighter II Turbo, Street Fighter Alpha 1, 2, 3, Street Fighter EX, Street Fighter III, Street Fighter IV - do we see how silly that comparison is? He’s not being a troll, he’s trying to gasp express his general opinion in a general fighting games thread.
The FIEND.
Yeah but the opinion is 1.in the wrong place 2. stupid. He keeps basically saying that fighting games should be more like RPGs. That they should be less about reflexes, player skill, and strategy and more about character development. Like there’s not enough RPGs out there or something.
This is a site for talking about competitive fighting games, and he comes on and says that the thing that would make competitve fighting games better is if they weren’t competitive fighting games anymore and instead were just you sitting alone leveling up your character. This isn’t even an opinion on fighting games, he just likes RPGs better and wishes there were more of them apparently.
Secondly, the assertion that all of them are “basically the same” is stupid in the first place. These games all require wildly different tactics, techniques, and mindsets to do well at, and if the OP actually took the time to learn how to play them rather than running through the movelist and then breezing through arcade mode a couple times, maybe he’d know this.
I’ll agree with you about the chess thing though. I understand how that analogy got started and all, but people take it way too far.
Not to take away from your trolling or anything, but chess has changed dramatically since its inception.
This is OT, but regardless the ancestral form of chess - caturanga - has no known rules and its sibling shatranj plays extraordinarily similarly to modern chess (with slight variants on movements and win conditions - and obviously names, as the game is middle eastern). The modern game starts at about the mid-fifteenth century.
How long as SF been around? But that’s neither here nor there. And how am I trolling, exactly? Am I not allowed to express an opinion either? What exactly are the rules here for doing that, I’m a bit fuzzy.
And fuck you OP.
Edit: My bad
I will concede that the OP is entitled to his opinions, with one caveat. When opinions of said person are so dense that they actually misinterpret the purpose of a genre (I don’t care WHY they had to make Street Fighter the way it is, it has BECOME the standard for what it is) and attempt to mold his “love of fighting games” to his introverted lifestyle rife with playing games alone in a darkened basement while the Cure plays in the background, then the ideas need to be keep like his personal approach to gaming…lonely and not shared with anyone.
And fucking Def Jam…seriously? I am still really from that. DEF JAM AT EVO!!! I DEMANDS IT!!
Its ancestor is - well Indian, technically but spread quickly to Persia and the middle east - and its ancestor was what I referring to.
Nevermind. I’m done. This thread has derailed and I’ve just reminded myself why I haven’t posted here in six years and why my initial assessment in this post was correct.