My first year attending Evo and the twelve hours of flying each way was completely worth it.
Sixteen man pools is definitely how it should stay, nobody wants to have to wait around all day in case they get disqualified. Have a large white board at each pool that the refs can fill in the bracket as they go. It’s a little annoying being a in a pool and not knowing who you might face next.
Name overlays on the main screens would be very handy and an in-house commentator for all games once it gets past pools. Yipes doing the Marvel semis was great.
Loved having water stations all around the venue, although they did run out towards the end of Sunday night.
Players from around the world who are well known to be top players, but for obvious financial reasons cannot attend other American majors, should be seeded by reputation or Evo should take on board results from World Game Cup, Super Vs Battle, Dreamhack, SBO, etc.
One of the guys we travelled with was in a pool with PR Balrog, Lamerboi, Gackt and Starnab. Even PR Balrog was complaining about this pool the entire time.
Evo was awesome and will hopefully only get bigger and better. The fact that you even post a thread like this is a positive. Massive thanks to the Cannons, Mr. Wizard and all the Evo staff for making this happen every year. (If only it wasn’t in Vegas where the average daily tempature is 46C and it’s only about ten degrees less at night!)
Also a massive thanks to the guys and girls who staffed the Gamers 4 Galaxy section. The many, many side tournaments they ran all weekend were a great way of getting more games in against players you’d not normally play and the staff were really friendly and accomodating. Please make sure to invite them back next year.
I judged that pool. That was the most fucked up pool I’ve seen in a long time. Gackt and lamerboi were definite potentials to make top 32 and they got rocked in that pool.
Have 4 stations, 4 qualifiers, 32 people per pool would help this.
My friend had Gackt beat, but messed up a HHS combo and got punished. Had he won, he would have been in Winners Final with Starnab. He probably would have advanced from the vast majority of other pools. He can’t complain about his own seeding spot though as he hasn’t attended any big European tournaments yet either.
Haha! Irish pad Honda that everyone was convinced was using turbo? Lol!
Yeah, that guy was really good. He definitely had Gackt on the ropes. But even getting to winner’s final in that pool is no assurance of making it out…
How am I an idiot exactly?
For not liking the phoenix who was flat as cardboard and really not that attractive?
Or the tall, super thick girl who came as Thor? who again, wasn’t attractive.
Or the short, fat, acne ridden C.Viper? Who again, not attractive.
The girl who cosplayed X-23? Yeah, after seeing Kayo Police I just assume all asian women who cosplay are men. This also goes for anyone cosplaying as a BlazBlu character.
I saw some chick as spider-man walking around. I didn’t get a good look at her, people were saying she was attractive but I highly doubt it.
It’s a sad day in SRK when people are getting salty over someone ***not ***liking cosplay.
I agree, it’s a fundamental flaw with the double elimination system that is unavoidable, so no sense in trying to help those “worthy” of higher ranks up. The only way around it is to change the system to Round Robin (the most fair) or the Swiss variety, but both of these would take an incredulous amount of time.
If you get eliminated in a pool by another “top 8” or “top 16” or “top X”, that’s just something that and will happen in a fair setup.
I’m well aware of this. But slightly larger pools casts a wider net for these things to level out.
Getting double jeopardy eliminated by the same player/counter character is no fun.
Besides, what if you were the guy that got double eliminated by Noel Brown in pools? He made top 5 and got money. Meanwhile, you’re 181st…
There was another guy who got double eliminated by kindevu in quarters then semis. If the brackets were mixed up a bit (easy fix), that wouldn’t happen.
The cannons know this is a problem, but they have said to me “pick your poison… huge pools or double jeopardy”
Slightly bigger pools are still manageable (32 as to 16) and lessen the double jeopardy and stacked pool problem simultaneously.
yeah like i said… the only double jeaporady i saw was the first match of the bracket where they faced off again in loser’s finals. That’s just plain unavoidable tho unless one of them loses sooner or one doesnt lose at all.
A 32-man pool is not that difficult to run and maintain with two people on the brackets. If you’re on top of your game, it’s definitely doable with even one person. Expanding the pools to 32 at least adds one more possibility of avoiding double jeopardy. There would be one more chance that the person that knocked a player into losers would get eliminated elsewhere in order to avoid playing them again. I’m ok with that. Plus, pools of 32 hopefully allow more of the people from the same area to avoid each other, assuming regional seeding is working correctly. I understand that people from the same area can and do travel in large groups, but throwing 4 people form the same area into a 32-man bracket is a lot better than throwing those same 4 people into a 16-man bracket.
Speaking of which, I think someone brought up zip code earlier which apparently is used to determine region seeding? I don’t see why people should have to collaborate with locals they may not even be friendly with just to make sure they enter the same zipcode for the purpose of avoiding playing them in a large tournament. Sounds like too much work on the player side, especially since they are paying to enter this event. Even so, if zipcodes were required for registration and this is indeed what was used for region seeding, whatever solution is used to spread those people apart didn’t do a good job this year. Has there been any thought given to using area codes instead or would it not work well?
personally i dont have a problem with double jeporady, but multiple people being in the same pool from the same area bothers me… at least early on. Fortunately I’ve only ran into that situiation once and that was at NCR.
70% of cosplay is terrible 20% decent and 10% good. Just the way it goes.
It’s weird to be that fucking bothered by it.
Don’t you all know the M.O. of nerds/dorks is to actively judge/loathe women based on physical appearance despite not having a remote chance in hell at getting with them?
I dont think its a financial issue as much as a time/inconvenience issue. If you come in thursday-monday, you really don’t have time to go all the way through the hall to the front taxi area (about a 10 minute walk alone) then go enjoy the strip and come back without feeling rushed unless you were knocked out or didn’t want to watch friends or finals. If it was back at caesars, you can stroll the strip very conveniently and come back anytime without having to waste time with traffic and taxis.
Just saying, its not a financial reason not going to the strip.
Thank you for a great EVO! I had a fun time running some Tekken 6 brackets and look forward to next year.The brackets were real easy to run and EVO should do it again next year.
As for the region problem,I think of it this way (even with the zip code method) I live in state that does not have many go to EVO or in the city near me. So the chance of playing against someone of my city or state is very slim. Now for someone living in example NYC or LA,you have a much greater chance of playing against someone in your city or region. The EVO staff does their best with preventing match-ups of people from the region/city. I liked the paper brackets,seeing I have been a bracket runner for many years.
The panels were real cool and I just had a hard time getting to the ones I wanted to see lol The booths were fun and so were the side tournaments. Should be exciting to see what games are at EVO next year for the main events.
