I don’t know if you don’t like triforce personally or some or most of the empire members or what the empire does or whatever.
Whether or not someone ‘likes’ Triforce should not be a factor in this article. The intent of this article is to be unbiased.
Me looking in from the outside it just seems like a troll attempt or some that you don’t like them for some reason.
This was created to be far from a troll attempt as possible.
Me reading every single post in this thread does not give me a reason to like or dislike the empire.
Nobody is asking you to generate hate towards Empire Arcadia from this article. For some reason, when people hear something that could be viewed as negative press about anything, they immediately think “what, now i’m supposed to hate this thing now?” No, nobody is asking anyone to hate Empire Arcadia, boycott their events, or give them dirty looks. The purpose of this article was to present information to the community about what Empire Arcadia is and what Empire Arcadia does. How you take it is up to you.
**Has something been done wrong to you in the past that you don’t like them for? Do you even dislike them? **
No.
Seriously, what’s the point to this thread?
See above.
Now before I’ve read this thread, it seemed to me that you were just a troll or something.
Nope, not a troll. I am curious, what is a troll to you?
Since i’ve read this thread, i’ve said to myself that there has to be a reason why this person is putting him/herself through so much trouble to do all of this.
I have been thinking about doing this a while back, and I thought it would be a good topic for discussion within the community.
The empire (triforce) has paid for my travels and tourney fees in countless tourneys in the past and also accommodations and food when I was 16 until i turned 18.
It is funny that you and another Empire Arcadia member say this, but when Justin Wong was asked “what are the benefits of being in Empire Arcadia?”, he responded by saying “I get to play with my fellow Empire Members.” There was no mention of Triforce covering expenses. Wouldn’t that be a good point to make? Why would Empire Arcadia not financially support their flagship gamer? Even Martin “Marn” Phan said “all I got out of Empire Arcadia was a tee shirt.” Both of these quotes were taken from the recent Alphaism Radio session with Skisonic.
**I know myself that empire is not the most likable bunch. **
This is not targeted towards the players of Empire Arcadia, the main focus is the company itself. The players are just used as examples and sources of evidence. This does not go against any of the players in Empire Arcadia and should not be taken as such. Again, it is not about the players, it is about the company.
I am curious as to why you think this is subconsciously true. Could you elaborate? Why do you think Empire Arcadia is not a likable bunch?
um, my video in the op shouldnt be labeled “as a empiric conspiracy.” You have no idea why I asked vic to turn off the mic, its just a assumption if anything (taking my video out of the OP as evidence would be even better!) Even though I’m not a part of EMP anymore I have to say that a lot of thsee assumptions in the article are pretty far-fetched or far reaching to say the least. Cant really say too much besides that for obvious reasons, and it’s not cause I’m brainwashed
I have to say though that trying to be unbiased in this article is pretty much impossible. It’s obvious you have a agenda here
I will say one thing to the OP: “It is not just about winning, it is what you do with that win.” is the best quote Triforce ever said, and if you think it’s nonsense you should check yourself because you understand nothing about the FG scene or the recent ‘hollywood’ aspect of it.
Regardless of the factualness of anything in the article, I hope you realize that it is written in an extremely slanted manner and is pretty much the antithesis of being unbiased.
You asking for the microphones to be turned off right before you give an announcement about leaving Empire Arcadia seems a bit questionable. If it is not a big deal, then why turn off the microphones? The situation begs that question. People do not do things like that unless they have something to hide or what they say could possibly get them in a lot of trouble. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the latter was the case. What are the obvious reasons why you cannot say anything? Is it the possibility of impending litigation?
Again, it is extremely difficult to make one’s work unbiased when one is invested in it. I do my best to be unbiased, and if it seems that it is I apologize.
Could you elaborate on why you think the saying has meaning? Whole concept comes from a tautological point of view. Of course people are going to do something when they win, that is why they play. Whether it be playing for fun, money, or stardom, people play for different reasons. And when they win, they do things with ‘the win’, whether it be celebrate, use the win for publicity, or just plain sit back and enjoy it. People also do things when they loose, effectively “doing something with the loss.” So I ask, where is the significance of the statement?
I have read this entire thread and I honestly was not going to respond but after seeing yipes and Kev im now going to. First and foremost the PO of this thread seems to have an interesting fixation on the empire and yes I mean fixation. This person has gone out of his way to great lengths to make a huge thread separated into sections with the specific agenda of trying to destroy the empire. Why? For those who would so quickly choose to join him in his attempts to bash I would simply ask that you consider the source first. That being said, here is an OUTSIDERS perspective of empire arcadia.
I have been to the arc, multiple times, I am someone who knows and speaks to red and triforce regularly. I also know yipes Sanford, Dre. Kev and Kreymore. Actually kev and kreymore and Andre helped me out a lot with my Akuma while I was there. At no time was anybody EVER rude, crude, mean spirited or anything less than friendly. It was just like hanging out with a group of my friends, which is what I would consider them. Triforce is a person that wears his emotions on his sleeve, rather that be good or bad I can honestly say I have never come across anyone with maybe the exception of Sanford that could match his passion for the industry. He honestly does want to expand the community. That not withstanding this is still America, more specifically New York. Where rent is high and space is limited. Bills must be paid and just because someone wants to share their dream and increase a community does not mean that there is not upkeep associated with that daunting and ambitious undertaking. Triforce does not hold anyone captive; the individuals at the arc are there on their own free will. Sanford, red, nightmare krey and everyone else are there because they choose to be. Is it really so unheard of that a man would ask you to chip in on an 1100 dollar a month light bill when you are there all the time playing on systems that are running non stop? Is triforce really that bad of a person because he chooses to have an environment for his players that fosters their abilities and gives them the proper platform to increase those said abilities? The fact of the matter is if you go to the arc and you play with those guys you will increase your skills exponentially and within twice the time it would take you to normally do so on your own. That is why the arc is referred to as the hyperbolic time chamber. All the members of the empire are great players and I would be inclined to think that a portion of their success has come from the fact that they have a place where they can go and train non stop round the clock and get better with the top players in the USA so once again, why is it so horrendous that he asks for help with the bills?
Everyone seems to have a lot to say since this whole Mileena situation came afoot but once again, please consider the effort that these individuals are putting into these attempts to slander the empire. You can hate a person all you want but when you go as far as to post chat logs and pictures of genitalia (if it even was triforce in the first place which hasn’t been proven) all in an attempt to discredit a person who is trying to help the community then exactly what are the reasons? This is why things of this nature are perceived to some as trolling. What has Mileena ever done for the community? To that point, what has semi auto demon ever done for the community? Please do not take that as disrespect, I am literally posing an honest question.
The members:
Lets talk now about the actual members of EMP. I played with sanford, andre, kev and krey (yipes was there but never got to play him) and none of these guys were anything less than courteous and respectful. At no time did I feel uncomfortable or unwelcome. Once again, it was literally like hanging out with friends, which is why I hold them in that regard. Every member there is willing to extend a helping hand and help you break down your mistakes and what you are doing wrong to help you get better. They will share everything that they know without trepidation and allow you to make mistakes in order to learn what you did wrong. Outside of actual game play they are also regular people just like you or I. Also, the common denominator is that they all want to be there, they want to be associated with triforce and emp and they want to be at the arc. They made a decision to stay when others left. They decided to remain despite the whirlwind of negativity surrounding their owner and their very organization. The only thing that sounds like to me is a group of loyal friends who want to be there.
The arc:
If you love the game and its something you are passionate about, why should you care what the conditions of your training facility are? Should triforce apologize for not having a mansion with wall-to-wall flat screens and consoles with gold plated chairs and chandeliers? Are you there to hang out with friends and get better at a game you love or are you there to sightsee? The conditions of the arc should not be a topic of discussion it should be what your there to do when you are in the arc. If your purpose is to get better at street fighter and the various other games that they have pro for or hang out with your friends then that should be your primary focus. The arc is not roach infested, the area is no more dangerous as any other part of Brooklyn, its about 10 minutes away from fort Greene which is considered one of the best areas in Brooklyn and NO ONE ever got robbed on their way.
I am not here to take shots at auto demon or anyone that has taken shots at the empire. I as a member of the community am respectful of everyone that is a part of what we love. All I am attempting to do is give an outsiders perspective of someone who knows triforce, knows the members and has been in that environment. Lets also remember that if you have a problem with triforce himself then that is an individual issue, so why drag the entire empire into that? Why make an entire thread with the express purpose to tear down regular people who have worked hard to excel at something we all love? Why try to put down people because they are members of a group whose purpose despite all the attacks and attempts to slander is STILL committed to helping increase the community and make them better?
Okay, I know what i’m talking about and if you were not so blinded to get caught in your own lies, then I would be more than willing to answer the questions that you’ve presented to me. But you telling me that you have no malice or hate towards the Empire and that this topic was meant to be unbiased toward the empire is BS. If you want evidence, because I know you love your evidence, I will present it. I don’t like being lied to and right now I am tired of this false stuff.
I know why I asked you if you disliked the empire or triforce and you said no.
So when I asked you that, I know in the past that I’ve seen you, YES YOU, on the Arc stream chats talking about I hope that triforce and his little empire crumbles and all that bull.(I’ll get the evidence from Wolfy ASAP)
I know that I’ve seen you posting all types of negative comments about empire on the Arc’s videos [media=youtube]WpzDZ-2RnCI[/media].
It’s very difficult to take this thread seriously when you are showing negativity among empire members in this very thread. Don’t take my word for it, re-read yourself the last 2 pages of this thread.
This thread has a real comical feel to me and since I haven’t had and entertainment lately, this thread will surely fill that part. So like Yipes says, I will stay tuned.
[Edit] Shoutouts to team spooky and their newest member, Freebin Salturo Blastchez
This thread is something to behold. I mean this could be the biggest troll thread,Or this could be real hard proof. But As we can see players from the EA are commenting ,and giving their side of the story.I respect that. Sup Kev ,and Yipes,Spooky,And Freetro.
This person has gone out of his way to great lengths to make a huge thread separated into sections with the specific agenda of trying to destroy the empire.
The intention of this article was not to ‘destroy’ Empire Arcadia. In all seriousness, if a PDF someone creates online can ‘destroy’ your business, then you have a serious problem on your hands.
Triforce does not hold anyone captive; the individuals at the arc are there on their own free will.
Could you explain the alleged impending litigation against FightingGM and Justin Wong? Sounds to me like a ball in chains.
You can hate a person all you want but when you go as far as to post chat logs and pictures of genitalia (if it even was triforce in the first place which hasn’t been proven) all in an attempt to discredit a person who is trying to help the community then exactly what are the reasons?
Actually it has been proven. To keep this thread safe for work I will just state some facts. Go to the Empire Arcadia Youtube page and look up the video where some members are playing Monopoly on the floor. Check out the wooden floor pattern of the ARC. Would you agree that the pattern is not common? Okay, given that, look up said media (I will not link it, find it yourself), and look at the pattern on the floor. It is tough to argue with forensic evidence like that. While there is no evidence said media came from Triforce, we do know the media was created in the ARC. And given recent events, and a sad attempt to exonerate himself, Triforce is trying to instill doubt inside his followers. Apparently, blocking someone on Facebook exonerates you from sending revealing photos and engaging in inappropriate online chat. Don’t try to defend this aspect, you will get nowhere. Even a good lawyer couldn’t win that case.
Lets talk now about the actual members of EMP.
No, let’s not. This article is solely about the company itself. Don’t try to conjure up sympathy because there are nice people in Empire Arcadia: there were nice people in The Third Reich too. Nobody said there were not nice people in Empire Arcadia. I have met many members: I even congratulated Sanford on his win at Road To EVO. I have no problems with the members. Stop trying to make this about the players, it is about the company.
NO ONE ever got robbed on their way.
Are you sure about this?
I am not here to take shots at auto demon or anyone that has taken shots at the empire.
In actuality, you sound like it.
Lets also remember that if you have a problem with triforce himself then that is an individual issue, so why drag the entire empire into that?
This is about Empire Arcadia as a whole. It is easy to see why it could be interpreted to be targeted towards Triforce: he is the CEO and makes all of the decisions for the company. Again, this article is about the company, not the people. I will not address this issue after this.
Why try to put down people because they are members of a group whose purpose despite all the attacks and attempts to slander is STILL committed to helping increase the community and make them better?
Please elaborate on this.
Shoutouts to team spooky and their newest member, Freebin Salturo Blastchez
This makes you look so bad it is not even funny. It is hard for someone to take you seriously after seeing you write that, it actually confirms a lot.
I know that I’ve seen you posting all types of negative comments about empire on the Arc’s videos.
Just because you hear something you do not agree with or like does not make it a negative comment.
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Shinjo101788
4 days ago
How does this disprove, in any way, that you did not have cyber sex with her? Is it because Andre said so? Give me a break. I am going to continue? to enjoy watching the empire crumble. Die slow hypocrites, die slow.
nice lol, pretty clear now that this thread was created out of a grudge or something.
The only thing I’d hold against EA is if it is true that they talk mad shit to new players who aren’t good at tournaments telling them they just wasted their money. If that is true it is hella fucked up.
If it isn’t then I don’t really see the issue besides the fact that the leader seems mad goofy with the videos and power glove or whatever.
One thing that people should keep in mind is that EA has been around for years trying to help gamers get better and organize tournaments and a few in this very thread have said they did get help with tournament fees and travel expenses. While team EG has only just got in on the scene while spending years ignoring the fighting game community in favor of counter strike and other pc games till it blew up as big as it did recently with sf4.
Do we really want to completely trash an organization that has been here throughout the smaller times now that the community has grown due to sf4 and some bigger boys with more money are buying up their players because they want to hop on the fad? Because I can’t see team EG sticking with the FGC if the current popularity is just a fad and the mainstream gets bored with ssf4 and ditches fighting games once again. But considering EA has already been here for years before it hit big I could see them staying.
Just because something new and shiny shows up doesn’t mean you should toss the old out in the trash.
Like I said, there are some good points but OP is reaching too much and lists some evidence that really isn’t evidence and if you want to be unbiased and accurate and inform people about EA/ARC then you have to list the good parts as well. The first post needs heavy editing before it can be taken seriously, whatever the word “seriously” means within the context of a post on a fighting game community forum.
I watched that video you linked. By the way, Triforce said that Mileena said that Ben Fong was “in on it as well” towards the end. What does Ben have to do with this, seems like she’s just trying to take all her problems and throw them onto someone else to take the blame off her. Seems to me like you got this attention whore Mileena as the source of your problems. Backstabbing is something I do not tolerate at all, what she was exposed doing, manipulating Sanford and trashing him in the conversation with Triforce, exposes her as worthless trash as a human being and no one should be taking anything she says seriously, that is, if anyone is actually listening to what she says in the first place.
It’s Brooklyn, stop reaching.
It’s just what people refer to as NYC trash talk but it does hurt the community.
