have a good day
I can vouch that Justin leaving didnāt start all this and most saw that Justin, among others, werenāt going to stick with EA years before. Justin leaving may have prompted people to actually post what they were thinking but the EA drama has been like the untold truth for years that people who live in the city know about. Some of the evidence against EA is true while some is ambiguous and kind of leaves important details out or is just reaching to hate. For example, how is Triforce telling Justin to remember to thank the community when he gets on the mic a bad thing, I thought that was a good thing. Also I found one of my posts from thread that got deleted:

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It sounds like you were able to make an informed decision based on the information supplied to you before you joined. You had no delusions of grandeur or misconceptions of the matter, meanwhile certain other people just expected 1st class free rides. Nothing wrong with that either. It just sucks that depending how you spun the information, EMP either sounds like a piece of shit or just a group trying to build itself from scratch where as EG has sponsors throwing money at them to offer luxuries EMP canāt (Iām guessing?).
Anyway Iām neither against the guy or supporting him but I still say this thread would have been more relevant years ago, I mean at this point, the majority of EMPās big names are in EG(or rather, at least enough of them for everyone to start hootinānāhollerinā over) and ānowā itās time to expose Triforceās evil scheming to the world? Who are we supposed to be effecting here? The people who are still āfallingā for his trickery? People who may fall for it in the future? Or has it just been a work in progress culminating to this convenient point in time?

im very aware of the article,but trust meā¦j leaving is what got this started.
The assumptions on this thread is funny to me but u know whatā¦if it makes ya day betterā¦carry on.
So set the record straight then. You have a bevy of first-hand experience so I think people would be more inclined to believe what you have to say over the OP.
Damn, this broad trolled the whole EMP?
Triforce had a mad case of Jungle Fever and it Merked him, no cure.

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This post is also true. Some āpro fighting game playersā are broke and near homeless and have a dream to step up their game and the ARC provides shelter and a constant training environment. People should see the ARC for what it really is, not just a free ride that you can take just because you placed in a tournament. Having people help pay rent was expected and having Justin help with it helped carry the empire. Like I said, Triforce still probably has that dream to expand the fighting game scene, to make it big like Starcraft and kDNF (DFO in the US) are in Korea. A lot of drama stems from Triforce being disrespectful and his discrimination which was evident in several streams not yet linked in this thread which people even mock him for, plus his constant need for money causes him to diverge onto unethical and immoral means.

EDIT: And one last thing, since people want to throw the word contract like it was invented this week, why donāt people read them?
It requires the ability to read.

I can vouch that Justin leaving didnāt start all this and most saw that Justin, among others, werenāt going to stick with EA years before. Justin leaving may have prompted people to actually post what they were thinking but the EA drama has been like the untold truth for years that people who live in the city know about. Some of the evidence against EA is true while some is ambiguous and kind of leaves important details out or is just reaching to hate. **For example, how is Triforce telling Justin to remember to thank the community when he gets on the mic a bad thing, I thought that was a good thing. **Also I found one of my posts from thread that got deleted:
That was not the point of that video clip. The point of that video clip was to illustrate the mentality that Triforce is instilling in his players by telling them āwhen you inā not ā*if *you win.ā This implies the āwinning is the only optionā nature of Empire Arcadia. He is basically telling Justin, āyou are going to win, period.ā Let me know if that cleared it up.

So set the record straight then. You have a bevy of first-hand experience so I think people would be more inclined to believe what you have to say over the OP.
Do not expect a reply.

This post is also true. Some āpro fighting game playersā are broke and near homeless and have a dream to step up their game and the ARC provides shelter and a constant training environment. People should see the ARC for what it really is, not just a free ride that you can take just because you placed in a tournament. Having people help pay rent was expected and having Justin help with it helped carry the empire. Like I said, Triforce still probably has that dream to expand the fighting game scene, to make it big like Starcraft and kDNF (DFO in the US) are in Korea. **A lot of drama stems from Triforce being disrespectful and his discrimination which was evident in several streams not yet linked in this thread **which people even mock him for, plus his constant need for money causes him to diverge onto unethical and immoral means.
Do you have the links to any of that evidence?
Iām no fan of Arcadia, but I donāt think thatās necessarily a threat. It could just as easily be interpreted as, āYou got thisā.
EDIT: Thatās not to say that there isnāt a āWinning is allā mentality. But that statement in itself isnāt necessarily a bad thing.
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I am not in EMP nor have I been to the ARC. But just think for one second.
You may not call it a company but it is āsomethingā. For people who probably canāt get there feet off the ground.
GuyA: I have 3 bowls.
GuyB: I have a box of cereal
GuyC: I have a gallon of milk.
They worked together and rid themselves of there hunger period.
For the people that left the ARC, they probably donāt have much against it, they probably just viewed it as a stepping stone and there is nothing wrong with that.
And as for Triforce stretching the legal arm, that is just about every business. Lots of businesses leach off of others. The best example would be a record label. If your signed and you donāt know what your doing, the record label is going to play you. A college canāt strive if people werenāt in debt after graduating from one. As long as your coning them while they are coning you, you are in good money.
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Oh lawdy. This thread makes me lol.

So set the record straight then. You have a bevy of first-hand experience so I think people would be more inclined to believe what you have to say over the OP.
because at the end of the day,it aint gonna make a difference,one of these days imma make a video with a brief bio of myself,affiliation with the Emp and random BS so u can have a better understanding of thingsā¦stay Tuned
Ok. Iām just gonna say this.
For SFIV/SSFIV, I am a nobody in that community, with the exception of knowing a couple of people who also/used to play Blazblue or Guilty Gear. Which would be no major player in the empire.
Not once at their tournaments over the last year did I feel I was being disrespected or treated rudely. Nor have I witnessed it. Unless you count getting addressed as a group as a pot monster on the stream, which could be FAR FAR FAR worse, I donāt count it as such. If the EMP people are better and win, then itās fair game for them to have the winnings, even if the purpose is a rent collecting session, because thereās nothing stopping a non-emp from going and winning it last time I checked. So from my perspective, the frequent tournaments do help the community.
Thatās all. Nothing more, nothing less.

Haha then it looks like you lost this bet guy. I rep Empire every where I go since I joined in 2003. Money I put to help the Empire I have gotten back with either Triforce paying or chipping for my travel fees to tournaments. And when I paid on way to go to Majors like ECC or international tourneys in Canada Iāve got my room paid for for my crew The $yndicate. Furthermore, Triforce got me my own segment that was suppose to air on MTV to showcase betting in the Chinatown Fair arcade and things of that nature
Yes I have given Empire a percentage of my tournament earnings, because that was in the contract that I read and signed. So no I wasnāt taken by surprise when Empire had its hand out, because I gave willing because I know it was for the company itself.
And this BS:
Does the thread starter or people in this thread live in the real world? How is asking people who live in the ARC for FREE and have access to systems and games of all kinds plus internet to help pitch in for the bills so they can keep living like that unjust? Now I donāt work right now but if I did I would GLADY chip in for a place were I can have comp in every major tournament fighter pretty much 24/7. So I ask again how is this unjust especially at the end of the day its for the players?
I tell you what the real problem is with Empire Arcadia, the mind set of the players in it now or formerly in it. They come in joining EMP thinking they are going to get a free hand out and have all their travel fees paid and instant fame, not at all. Empire started from the ground up like any other business. And if any of you who started a business or read the history of other businesses know that in the beginning its going to be hell to get to where you want to go with your business. And most of the players in EMP didnāt understand that or were not willing to work towards that. They just wanted the easy way because they can place top 5. Not I. I knew from jump street what I was getting myself into and I was well aware it was going to be a long road. Now of course I have my own issue with EMP, mainly the fact our boss acts more like a father than a boss thus causing players to act like children. But either way I stick but way I say and do with this company.
And GM, we are cool and all but right now you are looking a like a gossip with cosigning this bullshit thread. You honestly think Empire Arcadia is a pyramid scheme? You canāt be serious. Furthermore, youāre issues with Empire have been settled and you are now part of Evil Genius, congratulations Iām honestly happy for you. But please stop playing the victim here with all this. And if you are going to speak about the situation, YOU speak on from your side, not from a guy who searched āEmpire Arcadiaā on SRK and wants to play Watergate. Same goes for Arturo with that FB status. I donāt care you guys left, but be professional about and not make it more than what it is.
Now does it look I dodged anything? Iāll let you be the judgeā¦
EDIT: And one last thing, since people want to throw the word contract like it was invented this week, why donāt people read them? This whole situation sound like āThe LOX vs P. Diddyā and if you follow rap, you know how that turned outā¦
Does EMP salary you? If not, then itās pretty much slavery. Youāre giving them money. For what?

because at the end of the day,it aint gonna make a difference,one of these days imma make a video with a brief bio of myself,affiliation with the Emp and random BS so u can have a better understanding of thingsā¦stay Tuned
I am extremely interested in this content. Could you possibly link the content here as well?
On a side note, does anyone know how I can get a hold of previous IRC chats regarding this matter? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
;9216232ā]Does EMP salary you? If not, then itās pretty much slavery. Youāre giving them money. For what?
LOL, since when did slaves get paid?
fuck outta here.
Perhaps this thread and the recent events will motivate EMP to step their game up and win major tournaments.
Ayo, man⦠You gotta feel sorry for Triforce⦠guy truly loved a girl named Mileena⦠he loved her passionately, which you can tell by his epic cyber-sex post. She trolled him though⦠trolled him big time⦠and guy got exposed to thousands of people⦠To make things worse, Justin Wong⦠the only reason why the EMP is known for⦠also the cash cow left him for EG⦠Now Triforce is heart broken⦠and in debt⦠Shitās pretty sad, man⦠you canāt deny⦠=[
Whatās up all. Just happen to be looking thru the SRK forums and came across a thread that said empire arcadia in it so I just want to say some things.
To the OP:
I noticed your tag says semi-auto demon and realized that I watched you on a BF Arcadia stream when I was in London. Now iāve been back about a 2 months now and I donāt know what happened with empire while I was on vacation but it seems you are not on good terms with them (iām not gonna say āusā because iām looking from the outside). I donāt know if you donāt like triforce personally or some or most of the empire members or what the empire does or whatever. Me looking in from the outside it just seems like a troll attempt or some that you donāt like them for some reason. Me reading every single post in this thread does not give me a reason to like or dislike the empire. Has something been done wrong to you in the past that you donāt like them for? Do you even dislike them? Seriously, whatās the point to this thread?
Iāve also noticed your tag Shinjo with numbers and noticed that you were on the stream chat of one of the the wednesday night arc streams. Now before Iāve read this thread, it seemed to me that you were just a troll or something. Since iāve read this thread, iāve said to myself that there has to be a reason why this person is putting him/herself through so much trouble to do all of this. Iām looking at this from the outside and I would like to know what has been done to you that is making you go thru so many lengths to do this. What is the point of this? So confusing.
Feel free to PM me and let me know the deal. No info will be shared with anyone of this matter (no I donāt live at the arc and triforce is not over my shoulder looking at my post for those of you who think like that). Or if itās not a private matter, I think that the thread viewers at the least, deserve a right to know what the reason is of the OP to make such an extensive post breaking down the empire if there even a reason.
As far as contracts goes, they do exist. Iāve read and signed one as well as any other member that is legally bound to the empire.
To the Electrifying one:
Whatās up man, i donāt mind sharing info on what iāve given to and gotten from the empire. I have been one of the establishing members of the empire since 2002 (I was 16 then and iām 24 now). I legally became apart of it in 2004 when I turned 18. Before then, I was always apart of the fighting game scene and I also used to play smash brothers competitively. The empire (triforce) has paid for my travels and tourney fees in countless tourneys in the past and also accommodations and food when I was 16 until i turned 18. In later times, I have also given back to the company and triforce. Iāve helped keep roofs over peopleās headās during hard times. Given tournament travel money to people, and yes, iāve even helped to pay the arcās light bill, rent when they needed. So you say thatās a lot to do for people huh. Peopleās lives arenāt perfect and iām sure you know that. And believe me, I donāt just blindly give people money and things like and I realize when Iām doing enough for someone and they need to stand on their feet and do something for themselves. I hope my response helps to answer your question, but to be fair, this is just me. Maybe when others are asked or approached with the same question, they donāt want to lend out their own personal business or affairs they have with the company.
On a side note, I do look forward to moving to London later this year and becoming more involved with the scene in London and Manchester as far as England goes. See ya then blad.
As far as members in the empire goes (and iām not just talking about people in the arc) and former members of the empire, Iāve felt something like this was going to happen. I know myself that empire is not the most likable bunch. People have only settled with the empire because top players were apart of it. Now some are leaving and people are turning their backs the next hour. Iāve had my say with triforce about the whole letting people become empire because they are good. Just letting you know that I do talk to him about things like that. Some people are/were just in it for the ride, kinda like if something good happens, iāll be set because iām empire. Some people just want/ed to be apart of it because Justin was in it ([media=youtube]08S4poMGvwA[/media] and as men, this is sad). Triforce was getting Justin deals with companies so people tried to ride his coat tails. But whatās really the disturbing part to me is that people didnāt start leaving the empire until Justin started leaving. People canāt think for themselves these days?
If anyone has questions, feel free to ask, iāll try to answer back when I have time. Thanks for taking time out of your life to read my LONG post.
sighs

ā¦and guy got exposed to thousands of people
I c wut u did thar