Elk Grove, CA - The City Coffeehouse Thread

OF COURSE I MIND. Just joking :smiley:

Looking forward to this.

rps mm???

Yea a points system would be really good. Are you going to give points to the people have already placed top 8 in previous tournaments? Hopefully I can do better at this tournaments so I can actually get some points.

Oh dude, you serious? I’m totally down if you are! FT10 or FT20 (your choice) for $20.00. How about it?

I’m still not sure if I’m going to implement a points system, but if I am, it will NOT be retroactive - ie, points will not be given for previous results. This way, people know what’s “at stake” when they’re playing - precious, precious points. I want at least 2 points by the end of the Davis Drom’s ranbat season, but they’re not making it easy o_o!

Davis Points are worth more than the cash prize. Truth.

QFT (and redundancy)

I think we’re on. :party:

im confused do these points acualy mean something in the comunity or are they just 4 bragin rights?

BOTH! xD

Naw, just braggin rights, unless there is some kinda trophy to be won after a season is up or something…:razzy:

Ill be back monday whats good people?

-RAM

Actually, they’re sometimes a good indicator for skill levels in a particular area/region. I think if all ranbat seasons started and ended at the same time, had the same rules for each region, and generally were the same region to region, it’d be a good indicator of skill/consistency. For example…

Drom’s Fall Season Ranbats Final Results (example, but edited to reflect current actual rankings :D)

  1. Choi (50 pts)
  2. Allen Chang (37 pts)
  3. Jack (28 pts)

We would be able to assume that in Davis, the top 3 players are the ones who play the most consistenly/ have the most skill/ etc. Of course, these are gross oversimplifications, an can be terribly wrong - but I think the points can help give a general idea of who the “best” players in the region are.

ranbats

sounds good… no seeding this time though. i think it kind of deprives players of that hunger and forces complacency in games.i.e. half ass players.
random quote from utah ranbat blog:
“As we saw last time, the random seeding proved to be quite exciting in that ANYTHING can happen. Everyone bring your best game to the fight, or else you’ll end up in Losers early like I did last time. :D” <<<<<<<that’s what I want. EXCITEMENT>SEEDING. Anyways, that’s all I got. Longest post I’ll ever give /put up in the next two years. Peace.

Larry I have to disagree with you there. I feel like in a weekly tourney the top 4 shouldn’t have to play each other early. Those players earned their spots and it would suck to see the top player paired with the number 2 player in the first round because of random chance. The argument of excitement > seeding doesn’t really hold; if two good players are going up against each other, the excitement for the match is the same regardless of what round they play in.

Even if you don’t agree with that, at the very least I think seeding by area code is a necessity. I don’t want to drive 30 minutes out of town to play people I play against all the time. Please don’t make that your last post, I’d like to hear your feedback.

I also disagree. In ANY tourney, be it a local or major, seeding is done by region - this is done in an attempt to ensure that everyone who’s playing will get an opportunity to play someone “new.” Even Evo seeds by region - not saying that we should do it just because Evo does, but just adding this to make a point. There will almost always be regional groups - eg, Davis (530), Sacramento (916) - showing up. And since it’s weekly, you’ll never really be playing anyone “new.” But…

I see your point (and points brought up by others as well) about the potential of players sandbagging due to seeds. But let’s be honest - it’s not like our usual top players in this tourney are getting there by dumb luck. It’s not a coincidence that we always see Choi in the top 3. Out of the 4 tourneys he’s entered, Choi has placed top 3 three times, and 4th once. Choi probably would’ve placed the same regardless of seeds - he ended up beating his Davis buddies too to get those places. Choi is a solid player. Basically, your skill takes you to your place in the bracket - not just the luck of the bracket. And about half assing - who would play half assed in a tourney you paid $7.00 to enter in? If you’re playing half assed because you’re playing a buddy, why even join the tourney when you could just play your buddy for free in the first place?

I don’t think it deprives players of their hunger and forces complacency. If anything, it may make things more interesting - haven’t you ever breezed through the first rounds, only to get a huge, surprising slap in the face in the later rounds (happened to me at Evo o_o) Personally, I feel regional seeding makes things more interesting.

Also, I’m quoting myself in anticipation of the “then why not just leave the bracket as is” argument; regional seeding is done in an attempt to … well, basically ensure you’re not playing with the person you rode to the place with. I wouldn’t like it very much if I came to Munchies with my two buddies and solely faced both of them in the tournament and went home with NO new fight experience. I reiterate, though - since your skill takes you to your place in the bracket, the end result should consistently be the same across multiple tourneys.

Yes, please let us know - I’m curious.

Sounds like Gootecks had this same issue at Devastation with the region seeting and establishing a point system. I could really care less about how I’m seeded. Its not like I’m going to get any points by the way I’ve been playing. To be the best, you have to beat the best so where you are placed in the bracket shouldnt even matter.

I almost never complain, but if I drive or carpool 30 minutes just so I can play Jack (I hate that fool!, no j/k), ima get pretty pissed. Also, without seeding, people who aren’t really good have the chance to get high ranked (think of final round) simply because good players knock each other out. An example is I play Allen, Choi and Jack constantly, sometimes one right after the other meaning it’s already hard enough to make it through brackets with seeding. Having to play Jack and then Allen one right after the other in winners would just be retarded.

We never split (altho if the pots big, we refund entree fee sometimes to each other) and always play seriously against each other because that’s how we roll. We ain’t Ricky and John.

how on earth to say. i don’t have anything against wanting to not play people you play everyday I GET IT. But considering the turnout for the last tournament sometimes that is going to happen. How many times has Daigo had to play Mago/Shiro/Random top player #4 in the beginning/middle of a bracket?I mean, that sucks for either player… but at the same time…without things like that , there wouldn’t be people like Iyo in finals(I don’t mean in the Dhalsim /skill sense, I mean diff. players). Things happen, to make other things happen.If we afford players a better opportunity based on potential…it will stifle a lot of the energy that goes into playing at a higher level.Fight for your right, These are weekly ranking battles, not Evo. I don’t really think about it in the same regard. It’s double elimination!I want to see what happens to diff. players under diff circumstances every week.Everyone is so close in skill these days that an advantage like seeding just doesn’t really make sense at the local level. It would be redundant to have a pre ranked ranking battle in my mind.

Without proper seeding a horrible player can get 2nd place easily. True story.

Don’t make another post! Your post count is 1337 right now :stuck_out_tongue:

eric choi really isn’t that bad.:lol: