Elfuerte Challenge Mode Combo Help

The one challange that game me the most problems went i think like this…

jump in rk
lp
lp
lp
lk
crouch mk

that one took me forever to figure out the timing.

Man, this hp, hp, hp combo is driving me crazy. I either am too far away with the 3rd hp (and it doesn’t do the close version) or I screw up the dash and he does the hp version instead of stopping.

You’ll get it eventually if you can do 2 hits pretty consistenly. I just dunno if beyond 3 is feasible cause you get pushed back further and further it feels like.

After being able to finally hit 3 pretty frequently what I find that helps practice the loop over and over is just letting the run go alittle longer than normal to get the full effect of the loop even though they won’t hit confirm at first. Then when you get the whole picture down in your hands just speed up the cancel of the run back into the fierce.

Yeah so finally I pulled off Fuerte’s last two hard challenges yesterday, and today my friend was playing online, there was a power outage, and all my SF4 data became corrupt.

After I beat the 4th one, I was like “phew, never hafta do that again…”

Edit: Thank George for muscle memory, I was surprised I was able to do them again without too much difficulty.

That move where you have to do the jumping hk, hp, elf dash, sobat into his super is a real mind bender for me to Alejito. I was practicing it for at least half an hour today. I thought I finally pulled it off but I panicked and smashed all three kick buttons so he did his Ultra not his super. Did not count…

My poor old brain can’t keep all the motions and timing in the proper sequence. I know I will get it eventually I just hate how all the level 4 “normal” challenges never feel more like anything than hard as hell. Well except for the quarter circle dudes those are all pretty much cake except for Fei Long’s weird ass.

Im also having trouble with the timing for

(jumping) H.K
LP
LP
LP
LK
(crouching) MK

i believe thats the rotation, its the trial hard 3 challenge, ive been on it for days. Im sure it doesnt help im using an xbox controller =.

It’s definitely possible doing it on the 360 controllers, but it’s pretty tough since it has very strict timing. Personally, I used turbo on mine to get it done. Your best bet is to just get the timing down by frame counting.

how in the world do you beat his first hard trial?? no matter what i do i can’t make the super connect!

It has to be the lk super .

Hello Guys this is my first post…

Im on the Hard Challange Mode 1 with Fuerte and i have problems with it… tried atleast 3 hours now, and the other hard challanges are way easier…

i cant cancel the crouching middle kick to el fuerte dynamite (LK) without kara canceling…

i CAN kara cancel the crouching kick to super (LK) with no problem, but how in the world can i include the light kick at the start?? it messes up my whole flow :confused:

Kara Canceling the c.mk to super:

d, df, f, d + mk, df, f + lk works like a charm, but with lk at the start???

something like:

d, df, f** + lk **, d + mk, df, f + lk??

without kara canceling its far from possible, or am i wrong?

thanks guys and sorry for the spelling mistakes,
english is not my native language, im swiss =)

cheers!

edit: 1 hour of training… i cant link the kick to the super… please enlight me, or i need to go to the hospital :stuck_out_tongue:

edit2: 2 hours… i go to sleep, hope you guys can help :stuck_out_tongue:

I can pull of 3 hits of RSF very consistently…but I can’t finish the Hard Trial 4 for the life of me. I feel retarded.

Hey KennySWISS!

I think you may be wanting to say “motion buffering” when you say "kara cancel."
Kara cancel is when you perform a normal move and cancel that into a special move a split second later (almost simultaneously). So that the normal move almost cannot be seen. You can sometimes use a normal move that moves you little bit forward, so you can have extra range with your special move.

I’m not sure if other players used motion buffering for Hard Trial 1, but I recommend trying to c.mk xx super by quickly inputting the super motion as you press c. mk

In other words, instead of :qcf: :d: + :mk: :df: :r: + :lk:
try practicing doing it :d: + :mk: :df: :r: :qcf: + :lk:

It seems more difficult, and it will be more difficult for a while. But I think learning to do this is far more useful. I recently started learning stick, and I would spazz out trying to input the super after c.mk without much help. It was definitely frustrating. I’m a little better now, but I still have a bit of trouble doing c.mk xx super when I’m on the 1P side.

So you aren’t alone, friend. Keep up the practice!

Edit: OH YEAH!! I was finally able to complete Hard Trial 4 through 40 straight minutes of committing st.lk ~ c. mk xx super to muscle memory. That and a lot of luck. I don’t know whether this has any hint of truth to it, but for others who are stuck on Hard Trial 4, perform the combo when Dan is in the corner. After FA, dash cancel back into f.mk. I had way more success linking the st.lk afterwards when I dashed backwards. I was hypothesizing that maybe the spacing allowed for me to recover faster from f.mk. So give that a try.

And yup! After Hard Trial 4 was over, I quickly finished Hard Trial 5 in four tries. First character icons!!

For those of you are having trouble with the last one, here’s what I learned from reading around many topics in here about the performing the RSF.
Watching this helped me a lot (or rather listening to it helped):
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Take careful note of the button rhythm. There is a bit of a pause between “galloping” three button presses. That pause if for you to run a bit closer up to Dan, so your 3rd fierce doesn’t become a far fierce.

So it goes like:
:hp: xx :qcf: + :lp: a tiny pause :lp: :hp: xx :qcf: + :lp: a tiny pause :lp: :hp: xx :qcf: + :lp:

button wise: :hp: :lp: pause :lp: :hp: :lp: pause :lp: :hp: :lp:

You can also experiment with using :mp: for your habanero dash, I heard others who does the RSF made using the :mp: run easier for them.

Thank You. Watching the pulse thing REALLY helped me with this combo, that forward+MK -> LK link is brutal.

thx windbreaka for the tipps… but i still dont get it right :confused: is there something special about crouching medium kick into super?

I will try more :slight_smile:

edit: hmm i think i get i know :stuck_out_tongue: lol, its so easy when you have the muscle memory

this is how i did it

:d:, :df: + :mk:, :r:, :d:, :df:, :r: + :lk:

Why was I cursed with no rhythm?!

I can do one RSF after a s.Fierce but doing two RSFs following it or separately just doesn’t happen for me. If I finish this final challenge, it will be a fluke and that’s good enough for me.

omg, i had been using mk the whole time! i just tried lk and got it the first try. thanks a lot!

… i dont get it… i get through hard trail 1 and 2 in 10 minutes… after sleeping and not touching the game for about 1 day :rofl:

I’ve been stuck on Hard Trial #4 and I’m getting incredibly frustrated. I can link fa to f.mk, f.mk to lk, and lk to c.mk to super. For some reason, I can’t get the whole combo running. Any tips on the timing of the fa>f.mk>lk ?

if you watch [media=youtube]MJezgyCKp9o[/media], after the f.mk he doesnt go in the air for some reason…

I noticed, it was a little confusing. Add to that I’ve been rehearsing the lk>c.mk>super so much I’ve started to get stupid fingers:wasted:

You can do it forward, you just have to use Roundhouse for the super. It was tough but I am only stuck on the last hard trial, and it’s been that way forever.