Also something I forgot to mention, his run should not be thrown, its just retarded that you get thrown in the middle of a run, especially on wakeup, makes his escape options limited.
I would say give him 1000 hp…slight damage boost…that’s all…
El Fuerte, another character that does’nt need alot of help. I dont think a tough target like Fuerte need Health boost.
2 big things:
- accessible Armor breaker; either make run + mk(sorbat) break armor or remap Quesedilla Bomb.
- Fajita Buster damage boost, its high risk move, easy to punish, easy to evade, long recovery, should do more damage.
small things
- GUAC(or any grab in the game) should not trade, either you grab or you get hit
thats it
as for a wish: second Ultra maybe is another throw but on the ground, maybe he slides to the opponant(Ibuki style) …
Yea he is a tough target, till you knock him down once, then his escape options are limited so its hard to run again. So, either give him hp buff, or better escape options (again, ex run should not be thrown), the latter is much more important.
i kinda like fuerte how he is. if he loses that underdog kinda mentality he has got at the moment it kinda takes away from the character a bit.
i do think that he deserves more stamina though.
Capcom, every character but El Fuerte got into SBO this year. Do something about that!
Those images of T-Hawk smashing Fuerte’s face into the floor will haunt me… i suppose it’s something new to look forwards to :sad: right? RIGHT? :wgrin:.
Can i have some more health and more… power…
Oh! Me, me, me! Can i also have a command throw! The sumo dude gets one, why the hell can’t i! I’m salty beyond belief :annoy:.
that’s depressing:sad:
Guacamole needs to stop knocking people down >:( I agree with remapping Quesadilla Bomb too.
oO how would guac kicks not knock somebody down…?
Like all of the other characters besides Akuma, Gouken, and Seth, El Fuerte should have 1000 health. Assigning different run speeds to the punch buttons might make him more interesting? I’m not that well versed in El Fuerteness.
Should Fuerte have some kind of 360/180 command grab? Should his new ultra be a 720?
Serious question.
I’m thinking of using his st.jab slaps x2 as a tick into a command throw. That would be pretty neat.
Not asking for alot of damage on it either. Even if it were the same damage as a normal throw, that’d be fine. I just want it to be untechable.
honnestly, i think the majority of SF4 has wake problems and Fuerte certainly does’nt have worst,you can run, GUAC out, GUAC in and throw… i personally would like SSF4 to have roll away quick wake-up ala SF3. 
but whatever, i think its more important to do the 2 big things i posted, even at high level play NOBODY uses the Sorbat kick or Quesedilla Bomb(the bomb is rare). To me, that means Fuerte is missing 2 moves.
Problem is Fuerte doesn’t have any invincibility frames with his ex run, so it can be thrown… this is very frustrating, and many characters don’t have this problem.
But I do agree that Qbomb and especially Sorbat are also very essential flaws. Qbomb I think can be fixed by just changing its input command, and it would help if it can link to the new ultra. Sorbat is utterly useless, this one has to be changed to something completely different.
Fuerte in general has solid tools but using them requires double the effort of most other characters (hence maybe why he didn’t get into SBO even though he is better than bottom tier characters). I think those few essential changes that were mentioned will be the key to make him a lot more competitive.
How about an HCB+P motion for his command grab and an HCBx2+P/3P motion for his super/ultra?
I too feel he could go with a command throw, but that after the grab, he’ll have various mix-up options.
What is this Blazblue? 
No you mean 21416+C while you’re in MAX mode
Give Fuerte a 360. Give Fuerte a 720. Fix the specials that suck. Make guac not trade.
Well deal with it because a new source of wannabe Psycho Power was throwing the Master around. I’m not down with that, but I’m down with El Fuerte being thrown around like a rag doll.
Make his running chest move (?) a different command maybe QCF and kick?. Or a shorter charge time. And make the EX version easier to execute.
Fajita Buster should deal more damage because its a very risky move, it should make people think twice before trying to FA a splash.