El Fuerte Matchups and Strategies v.2 ***Updated 02APR10***

[somebodyelse]

Hey when I bait Blanka’s ultra sometimes when I’m behind him and he’s coming down from the air. I slide and the slide stops his ultra. Does anyone else know about this technique? Sometimes the move works and other times you get hurt , but still stop the ultra.

Gamertag: Fewmr PICKLES If you want me to show You the technique in detail.

[halcyonryu]

Hey when I bait Blanka’s ultra sometimes when I’m behind him and he’s coming down from the air. I slide and the slide stops his ultra. Does anyone else know about this technique? Sometimes the move works and other times you get hurt , but still stop the ultra.

Gamertag: Fewmr PICKLES If you want me to show You the technique in detail.

Hey pickles, I’ve run into you randomly in championship mode a few times I think

Yeah, if the blanka just sits there and spins in place for whatever reason(I have no idea why some of them do this), you can hit them out of that with the tip of any normal just like regular electricity. Slide from far away, low MK works if you’re a bit closer, you can stand MP it, etc. You just can’t ultra or tortilla it cause he is technically in the air. I’m pretty sure you can even quesadilla bomb him out of it though I’ve only done that once so I dunno how consistent that is.

Lol you can probably airthrow him outta that shit now that I think about it, 0 practicality but boy would that be funny

[halcyonryu]

great stuff in here but whats up with the gief match its my only problem now to me the match is just stupid for fuerte. to me there is no point to ever run and splash or anything all i do is stay away and charge all kicks for my bombs and hit gief on his fuck ups. i find it waaay to risky to do any wake up games due to back dash spd. iv tried wake up games but when u play a really good gief that can back dash even meaty slides theres just no point cuz out 1 out 4 wake ups hes gonna guess right and get a spd and the match is even again. i usually win these matches with a time over. anyone have some good options on this match?

If I have even a slight lead, then I don’t do wakeup games on him. It’s a risk that I don’t need to take. Q-bomb is actually really good on him, as long as he has no stocks, since without stock all he can punish with is regular green hand which is a free throw for you on hit, trade comes out well for you, but if he has stocks that’ll be ex hand which is really bad. Why attack when you can make him chase you, he is really not good at chasing fuerte. Keep him honest with stand MP and bombs if he has no meter, he can’t jump so he just has to walk you to the corner, at that point, you just have to be careful and not predictable getting out, don’t do a telegraphed walljump or you’ll be headbutted, but if you can fake him into jumping(empty jump back and pretend to walljump usually works) then you can ex run right under him and start the benny hill music all over again while he chases you back across the stage some more.

If you are behind or it’s even then the main mixup I use in this is

1. run back really far and aimed all the way forward tortilla, then start inputting back and forth (db, df, db, df, db, df, mash like its sf4) lk guac. This will grab him out of ex hand, forward dash, lariat(unless they do the jump cancel). Only answers for him are jump or backdash. If they jump in any direction then the lk guac will catch them(replace with EX or ultra if you have it for more damage). So really all he can do here to escape is backdash or jump cancel lariat. If he backdashes then you will recover a few frames before his backdash does if you timed the tortilla right, if he tries to spd you or ultra, your lk guac will come out and it will miss, you get free combo. Backdash SPD IS NOT FREE vs tortilla grab, if it is free on you, then you are doing your tortilla too late. However of course if he backdashes and doesn’t immediate spd, you’re whiffing a guac and you’re in trouble, so occasionally you want to

2. run back, stop, jump in fierce aimed to crossup where he rises. This counters both jump cancel wakeup lariat and backdash. If he does jump cancel lariat, that means it isn’t a crouch lariat, so your elbow will beat it clean 9/10 times, and if he backdashes, your elbow will punish it. Follow up with a couple hits of rsf then slide and begin again. You really have to train the opponent to backdash using option 1 before you start doing this cause if you do this and they don’t backdash it’s a free crouch lariat, or if he forward dashes on wakeup, he can get a spd or ultra on you here, but this is the most damaging way to keep him honest. Another way is to run back, stop, jump in airthrow to catch the backdash, but this will also lose to jumpcancel lariat and does less damage so I don’t like it as much in this match.

Honestly those are the only 2 things that I do against his wakeup. I don’t ever splash or slide ever. Those are both risk/reward not in your favor. Free backdash spds, splash is free anything on block, slide puts you right next to gief on block which is bad imo. MIXUPS DONT HAVE TO BE COMPLICATED this is true for all matchups…if you have something that they can only escape in one possible way, then all you need to do is mix it up with something that counters that one thing, and you will have them guessing. You don’t have to do 6 different random things on someone when you can mindfuck them with 2.

If he knocks you down, ex run back on wakeup then mash kick to jump the hell outta there. Don’t ex run back to tortilla or splash, unless you know the gief doesn’t know what’s up, cause if he knows the match you can easily be ultra’d for that. To stop you from doing ex run back to jumpback he will have to grab you immediately on your wakeup, so you can just jump away from that or vertical jump and punish if it is a spd or ultra. Its a guess and if you guess wrong you take damage, but that’s the price of getting knocked down.

Gief is not hard at all but you gotta know the match, you can’t play a good gief the way that you play other characters, sliding on him and splashing at him etc. that’s all suicide.

[System_1]

So Gief counts as airbourne for green hand? I never knew that!

[brainz]

No. Guacamole is in case Gief backdashes or jumps.

[thethrillisgone]

Any writeups on vs Sagat?

[System_1]

No. Guacamole is in case Gief backdashes or jumps.

Ahh re-reading it and it makes sense. It’s the late tortilla that will throw him out the forward dash, hand and lariat then the lk guac in case if back dash and jumps. I just misread it. : )

[halcyonryu]

guac will grab jump, but not fast enough to grab backdash(if it was, this would be inescapable). Guac will avoid backdash spd though

[FuriousJodo]

So I was playing against my brother’s Gen again and tested something out, on the upkick, if he hits the first hit and you block it, you can do a slide under it. If he does the second kick, you get to ultra him.

[FuriousJodo]

If I have even a slight lead, then I don’t do wakeup games on him. It’s a risk that I don’t need to take. Q-bomb is actually really good on him, as long as he has no stocks, since without stock all he can punish with is regular green hand which is a free throw for you on hit, trade comes out well for you, but if he has stocks that’ll be ex hand which is really bad. Why attack when you can make him chase you, he is really not good at chasing fuerte. Keep him honest with stand MP and bombs if he has no meter, he can’t jump so he just has to walk you to the corner, at that point, you just have to be careful and not predictable getting out, don’t do a telegraphed walljump or you’ll be headbutted, but if you can fake him into jumping(empty jump back and pretend to walljump usually works) then you can ex run right under him and start the benny hill music all over again while he chases you back across the stage some more.

If you are behind or it’s even then the main mixup I use in this is

1. run back really far and aimed all the way forward tortilla, then start inputting back and forth (db, df, db, df, db, df, mash like its sf4) lk guac. This will grab him out of ex hand, forward dash, lariat(unless they do the jump cancel). Only answers for him are jump or backdash. If they jump in any direction then the lk guac will catch them(replace with EX or ultra if you have it for more damage). So really all he can do here to escape is backdash or jump cancel lariat. If he backdashes then you will recover a few frames before his backdash does if you timed the tortilla right, if he tries to spd you or ultra, your lk guac will come out and it will miss, you get free combo. Backdash SPD IS NOT FREE vs tortilla grab, if it is free on you, then you are doing your tortilla too late. However of course if he backdashes and doesn’t immediate spd, you’re whiffing a guac and you’re in trouble, so occasionally you want to

2. run back, stop, jump in fierce aimed to crossup where he rises. This counters both jump cancel wakeup lariat and backdash. If he does jump cancel lariat, that means it isn’t a crouch lariat, so your elbow will beat it clean 9/10 times, and if he backdashes, your elbow will punish it. Follow up with a couple hits of rsf then slide and begin again. You really have to train the opponent to backdash using option 1 before you start doing this cause if you do this and they don’t backdash it’s a free crouch lariat, or if he forward dashes on wakeup, he can get a spd or ultra on you here, but this is the most damaging way to keep him honest. Another way is to run back, stop, jump in airthrow to catch the backdash, but this will also lose to jumpcancel lariat and does less damage so I don’t like it as much in this match.

Honestly those are the only 2 things that I do against his wakeup. I don’t ever splash or slide ever. Those are both risk/reward not in your favor. Free backdash spds, splash is free anything on block, slide puts you right next to gief on block which is bad imo. MIXUPS DONT HAVE TO BE COMPLICATED this is true for all matchups…if you have something that they can only escape in one possible way, then all you need to do is mix it up with something that counters that one thing, and you will have them guessing. You don’t have to do 6 different random things on someone when you can mindfuck them with 2.

If he knocks you down, ex run back on wakeup then mash kick to jump the hell outta there. Don’t ex run back to tortilla or splash, unless you know the gief doesn’t know what’s up, cause if he knows the match you can easily be ultra’d for that. To stop you from doing ex run back to jumpback he will have to grab you immediately on your wakeup, so you can just jump away from that or vertical jump and punish if it is a spd or ultra. Its a guess and if you guess wrong you take damage, but that’s the price of getting knocked down.

Gief is not hard at all but you gotta know the match, you can’t play a good gief the way that you play other characters, sliding on him and splashing at him etc. that’s all suicide.

I think this low guac after tortilla would work on a backdash grabbing Abel too wouldn’t it?

[Kail]

Hate to give help to fuerte players…I main rose and dab in ElF.

Rose’s ultra at the right distance is punishable with the Flying Giga buster. Its one of the few ultra’s rose can be counter ultra’ed and beat at any range really…

[halcyonryu]

I think this low guac after tortilla would work on a backdash grabbing Abel too wouldn’t it?

Yeah, I do a very similar thing to abel when I knock him down actually, but abel has a few more ways out than gief does. You don’t want to actually use the guac to dodge a throw on purpose…it just is a happy coincidence if they backdash and it happens to work out that way. If you predict a backdash then you should do something else.

[Densuo]

Page 3 of Strategies and Matchups

Dhalsim

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Dhalsim

If you are full screen his limbs and fireball will not reach.

**Beware of Up Fire… it beats Flying manuevers off the run **

For dhalsim you can guac him if he teleports behind you

if he’s within range of your ultra midair and he’s already thrown his limbs out, you can go for it, just time it right since he has a lot of air time. if he didnt throw his limbs, he’ll definitely teleport out of your ultra.

if he keeps jumping back and tries to reaction fierce you when you try to chase him down, well-timed dashes or run-stop then ex guacamole will catch him when he throws out his limbs (dhalsim’s hitbox stretches along with his limbs, and ex guac will go through the fierce)

don’t run straight into dhalsim’s attack range. bait his limbs and fireballs, once he makes a bad mix of the two (hopefully he does :lovin:) you can wall dive hp, close hp to get in, finish it however you’d like for a knockdown

if he teleports behind you, quickly throw out a jab since normals always come out right, and it’ll reset them before they have a chance to attack. once he’s reset, any of his poke attempts can easily be crossup splashed, if he mk.slides then it’s a free splash (just steer it correctly to land right on him).

bait teleports on wakeup and quesadilla, throw, etc. if he has meter he might ex yoga blast against your splash, fajita, and tortilla, but if you bait that too then you can get another knockdown, and he’s one meter short of his super.

in this match, whichever player loses patience and walks into the unsafe zone will most likely be punished.

fuerte shouldn’t chase them because you’re running right into their trap. he’ll jump back and hp a lot to gain distance. sit on your life leads and be careful not to gradually lose it by getting hit by limbs.

E. Honda

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E.Honda

he can’t really go towards you aggressively & you can’t either.

If he goes towards you, he gets knocked down and gets mixed-up to death with cross-up j.HP, c.HK, f.MK, or tortilla propeller.
If you go towards him, all of your wall-jumps are beaten by j.HP or a well-timed headbutt. Blocked splashes can be punished with s.HK and doing any FA game not on wake-up is too dangerous due to headbutt/ochio/hhs.

whoever gets the life lead and turtles effectively wins.

Honda is a really annoying match and I always have trouble with it. I think it’s one where you have to get the life lead and then just hang back and let him come to you. :\ Also, that fat bastards Ultra taking you out regardless of what side you try to splash/throw him on is SO annoying. Seriously, it doesn’t make any sense, if I can jump over Sagat’s tiger knee ultra thing, why can’t I splash on the other side of a short sumo man who is launching forward?

I’m usually pretty aggressive against honda actually. But if I have a lead, I won’t go chasing him. I pressure him on his wakeup a lot though. Make sure and hop over him so he can’t wake up with ex torpedo.

E.honda- You can airthrow him out of any whiffed headbutt. You can beat his buttslam but not its Ex version with splash. Dont make it a habit to run in on a standing Honda his orochi throw eats your run game alive.

~Focus his Butt Splash

When I discovered that s.HK cleanly beats Honda’s headbut on reaction, it totally changed the matchup for me. Let him eat a couple of them and shut down his turtling. Force him to come after you instead of you chasing him down.

jHP to counter a headbutt will make Honda recover in mid air. This is a Reset Mixup opportunity.

Tortilla should not be utilized against a upright and down charging Honda/ Butt splash will hurt you.

Tostada Press’ invincible frames goes THROUGH the second part of the butt slam.

Fei Long

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Fei Long

Be Alert for close range Chicken Wings (1st hit is Armor Breaker) and Rekkas, these can cause trouble for you if he starts rushing you down.

Archetypically I put him in line 3S yun, he has low-risk, moderately damaging, mixups but these coupled with his high mobility, great focus attack, and vertical angled DP make a somewhat all-around style character. However, his offense is strong enough to throw a wrench in Fuerte’s game.

HK chicken wing is generally the first “troublesome” thing you run into, because the invincibility screws with all your “harder to avoid” mixups. Then he’s still got a DP when for if he sniffs out a safer mixup. I deal with it like this: in any non reversal situation, I should be at range such that I can LK guac the chicken wing. It is very reliable. If I’m not at that range, I should be pressuring him. If he’s pressuring me, well he did something right so I might have to block one and a mixup every once in a while. So be it.
Perhaps most importantly, run back charge focus works VERY well vs this move because it only armor breaks at close range and he has no way to threaten you from distance otherwise.

Post knockdown Reversal HK chicken wing is a real bitch because now he took away your lowest risk manuever because reversal HK chicken armor breaks all the way through. What I do is usually start out with the same thing, run back charge focus. So this is at the range where again only the end of the chicken wing would hit, but you’re still far enough away that you have plenty of time to react so just backdash just to see if he’s going to do it. Use this knowledge to employ (or just go directly to) to the counter of run back, neutral jump, falling whatever heavy attack into whatever combo you can get. Although this is low probablity to hit, it’s virtually riskless.

The rest of the game I think runs a little even for the chars. If either gets his offensive pressure game going he is going to have a strong advantage, the other just has to use his inherent tools to accurately avoid that. For Fei, that’s pick the right time to DP. For Fuerte, that’s block and avoid the mixups/f+mk overhead/throws/inevitable random DP.

Fights like that really make play the type of El Fuerte game where you run down the clock with very safe options and just wait/force a mistake. For that reason I try to find the setups like the above that will take turn the tables on what seemed like a very safe option and convert into high damage. I think of it as how a Combofiend, Edma, Ken I, or Buktooth might play. I have some tricks for this very purpose that I’m still kinda quiet about. But a simple example is the situation where a Shoto has 3 meters and is knocked down. You run up right into the range where it looks like his DP is going to hit whatever you do or be blocked at worst, sp he thinks he has a safe DP option. Instead of stop block, you step back, make his DP whiff so he has no FADC and you kill him. For Sagat, whiffing the c.lk at range to make his Tiger Knee whiff so you get RSF. I guess it’s sort of akin to optimizing your abare. The thing is, this type of option hinges on the other guy not being aware of your setup. That, or being aware of it, and the counter, and then the counter to the counter and all the layers of yomi that you have to get into at that point. But that kind of stuff is necessary I think to win with this char in the long run.

Gen

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Gen

If he does his off the wall kick (The one where he immediately flies off the wall towards you), you can land an Ultra on top of it. If you don’t have Ultra and are fairly quick at reacting, you can back run into Tortilla on top of him. Otherwise, block and throw him.

You can air throw Gen out of most of his off the wall moves

• Can’t airthrow: Immediate kick off the wall, or where he jumps off the wall and then immediately goes back to the ground near the wal
• Can airthrow: Any move where he goes straight off the wall - I think his options here are a kick straight down on top of you, kick to either side of you, or just a fly straight of the wall. If you can meet him in the air you should be able to airthrow.

Gen’s jump is very strange, and he has a slightly different timing on his jump depending on which stance he is in. Trying to land Ultra on a naked jump is very risky due to this.

Focus attacking is super risky against any competent Gen, they will pull out hands almost immediately and break your armor. It’s really not a great idea, because they will probably get another m.K to hands out of it and take a nice chunk of your health.

Slides work well against Gen, safe tortilla doesn’t seem to work on his upkick but I believe you can do it to avoid him. Splash works but only on his far side, his upkick will beat splash if he guesses correctly or gets auto correction.

If Gen does his upkick and you block the first hit, immediately jump and airthrow OR jump and l.K - otherwise he CAN do the second kick of the upkick if you try to punish him from the ground. If he whiffs the first kick, then he can’t continue the sequence, but if you block the first one he can get the other 7 hits on you.

~ Gen can use EX Wall Jump to escape your wakeup.

Safe tortilla definitely works on gen’s upkick, or anything he does except ex walljump. If you block the upkick, just wait patiently for him to hit the ground then rsf him, he has a lot of recovery. Getting hit by the extra kicks of the upkick would just be silly, just wait for him to come down.Ex walljump is the bitch move of the gen match cause he can really escape any mixup with it fairly easily. Important to limit gen’s meter gain for this reason since if he has no meter and fuerte knocks him down it’s really really hard for him.

Gouken

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Gouken

~ His Fireballs do crap damage. Get in there and play the guessing game.

~ If he charges a Fireball, EX Run and wait for him to fire it or until you are dead in his face for the slide knockdown, he’s committed to that move, so get the free knockdown.

~ His EX Fireball is two of them, one straight, one angled, each hits once unless he charges, which is a get-in-free for Fuerte.

~ He has Ultra I wonder what he’s gonna do? Tech that throw. I guarantee you it’s coming. It has a BIG tech window.

~ He has counters, he will be going for them here and there. Bait that or sucker’em with mixed in grabs

~ EX hurricane Kick is great, it distance between you. If you are taking him to splash mountain be wary of it and bait that. Free RSF

~ He has the Demon Flip move too. FA /ULTRA.

He’s at his most dangerous at mid range, his fire balls are pretty quick, and his dash punch can push you away. Stay at Mid long rang and go from there to in your face. his normals up
close are nothing special and his AA is lousy.

Guile

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Guile

Standing Far HK can go over Sonic Booms, handy for Guile’s that like to walk behind their slow ones.

Get a life lead and make him come to you.

Guiles that love crHK sweep are being foolish. After you block the first one, focus the second one, then proceed to punish.

A FA and RSF loop seems to be the cure for any Guile that thinks he can sweep you.

~ Careful of EX Sonic Booms when he has meter

Against Guile, don’t jump over a sonic boom toward him if the boom is already out and he is fully recovered, either with a jump, walljump, splash, whatever. He will just airgrab you. Beats everything, even your own airgrab most of the time, Guile’s has longer range than yours. You have to run and splash/fajita buster over the boom as he is throwing it. Takes a little prediction, but so does his airgrab. If he is trying to airgrab you without any sonic boom cover, then he has to guess when you are going to splash/fajita, if you fake him out you can trick him into jumping that way. That and ex guac to keep him from jumping backwards and you’ll be able to convince most Guiles to get a little more aggressive. If not, it’s only a matter of time before you push him to the corner where fuerte does his best work.

Ken

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Ken

First and foremost. DO NOT treat every Ken player as an automatic Flowchart Ken, make your assumptions after the first round / after seeing starter patterns. This is the easiest way to get your ass kicked.

~His Back dash has ZERO frames where it counts as him being in the air.

~ Watch out for his Kara Throw

~ His Fireball recovers slower then other shotos, so it should be easier to run xx Tostada/Fajita or EX run through -> whatever.

~ His Ultra Animation ENDS with him crouching, yes that means hitbox. DO NOT GO FOR close HK, it WILL miss

~Safe Tortilla does NOT beat his DP do it to get behind him

~Safe Tortilla Interrupts his super

~ Hurricane kick: beat clean by: Q-Bomb, guacamole, cr. FP, Jump straight up -> Airthrow, and punished with Run back tortilla, and a well placed slide.

~ his f+MK lets him gain ground quickly.

~ His Jumping HK tends to beat cr.FP and late Guacs. Just run back Tostada/Tortilla or EX guac that.

[quote=Aoi86]

cr.FP is pretty badass, cept against Ryu and Ken. Somehow, they have mighty feet that stuff it . I’d stick with tortilla landing

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Get a knockdown. Then turtle. [/details]

M.Bison

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M.Bison

This guy can beat you just because of his fast normals, standing MK/HK are a real pain. You need to block/Tech alot.

Scissor Kick Hits twice on all versions. It’s fast and downs. But at max range it’s FA-able.

his jMP can be done twice in mid air, and knocks down.

Devil’s Reverse hits ONCE, Focus. EX hits twice, but costs TWO meters (one up, one down)

EX Headstomp hurts. Avoid /Block it at all costs

Psycho Crusher sucks vs Fuerte’s standing Far HK (Dropkick), it goes right through and gives Bison a face full of Boot. Q-Bomb beats it too.

Bison’s Ultra can be Ultra’d on block, you hear noise during the psycho crusher, where it goes VOOM-VOOM-VOOM, after the third one (where by here he has gone past you, you can Ultra him.

mix ups are pretty much 100% safe on his wakeups; his escape moves don’t do damage except for ex psycho, which is an easy ultra punish on block

when bison is on you, just block patiently. he’s either going to do a counter to you trying to get out (stand rh, ex headstomp, etc.), or he’s going to try to keep you pinned with scissor kicks. If you blocked and he did a get-out counter, then you’re out. if he’s going to try to keep you pinned and you ex run -> rsf through it, the risk/reward is wayyyyyyyy in your favor

I was just doing some training against Bison, and I found out about this, I am not sure if this is already well known or not, but I hope it helps: (I posted this in the “Dash” thread but I thought it might be better to have it in the official matchup thread)), its regarding Bison’s EX headstomp:

"If you do psychic EX guac (meaning right before he does EX headstomp or almost at the same time) then he will win. However, if you do it after he does, you will either escape through it or even catch him if you do the timing well. Try it in training, I just did and I caught EX headstomp with EX guac several times cleanly without a trade.

Something on that note, if you want an easier way to beat EX headstomp without even wasting EX meter, just jump and hk! If you jump in place (without right or left direction) Fuerte’s hk in air (aka his ass) beats all headstomps (EX and none) cleanly. If you do it a bit late you might trade however. "

Continued here!

[Aoi84]

Yay, new stuff posted.

For Sagat, I almost always throw in QCB+P, UF+LP into the wake up game. If he uppercuts on wake up, you can air throw him. I’ve only been knocked out of this with an EX-Upper from a sloppy close range, so it tends to be fairly safe. If you manage to throw him out, it’s highly demoralizing to the Sagat player (ie, he won’t feel confident doing it again). If you guess wrong, and he doesn’t uppercut, you can still come down with a FP that tends to cross him up.

Also, I like to whiff wall jumps over fireballs to see what kind of Sagat player you got. He’ll either react with the standing HK or an uppercut. If he falls for it and uppercuts, it’s your opportunity to get in there.

[spikerazorshards]

Great advice, Aoi.

[The_Pestazoid]

Yay, new stuff posted.

For Sagat, I almost always throw in QCB+P, UF+LP into the wake up game. If he uppercuts on wake up, you can air throw him. I’ve only been knocked out of this with an EX-Upper from a sloppy close range, so it tends to be fairly safe. If you manage to throw him out, it’s highly demoralizing to the Sagat player (ie, he won’t feel confident doing it again). If you guess wrong, and he doesn’t uppercut, you can still come down with a FP that tends to cross him up.

Also, I like to whiff wall jumps over fireballs to see what kind of Sagat player you got. He’ll either react with the standing HK or an uppercut. If he falls for it and uppercuts, it’s your opportunity to get in there.

What is UF? I have never heard of it

[brainz]

:uf:

[m1northreat]

heres tetsu fighting a blanka. not sure if its a repost but im just throwing it up. Im goin to start at least trying to counter short balls with mp.
[media=youtube]YA-sQ2S56LY[/media]

[akashwan]

heres tetsu fighting a blanka. not sure if its a repost but im just throwing it up. Im goin to start at least trying to counter short balls with mp.
[media=youtube]YA-sQ2S56LY[/media]

Thanks pal, That was a very informative match :tup:

[sneakermaker]

heres tetsu fighting a blanka. not sure if its a repost but im just throwing it up. Im goin to start at least trying to counter short balls with mp.
[media=youtube]YA-sQ2S56LY[/media]

heh. standing mp. and ex guac for blanka ultra. didn’t know those were possible