Rufus U2 is ass. I did a wakeup j.hp cross over and he used it, landed in time to block it.
Tortilla wasn’t interrupting ryus dps… I’m sure I was timing it ight.
Qbomb seems faster. Call me crazy.
I feel I was missing stuff I usually pull out.
I can’t RSF but it feels easier canceling into run from fierce. But the wind to combo in run slide seems smaller.
Ultra 2 feels risky. I was missing it nearly all day. Do NOT use it against scrubs as they are jump happy. It’s range is very short.
U2 can punish so many things that I don’t see why you’d use it if it wasn’t guaranteed.
Even with Siberian Blizzard?
That’s awesome.
Still getting used to it. Timing and all that. I wanted to test the ‘random’ theory. But used as a punish, it’s pretty friggin deadly. Taking less white damage for FA is good. I’m routinely getting to use ultra twice now
Qbomb beats Abel ultra two. Launched mine and opponent did it midscreen on reaction ( or was it random…) glass shatters and Abel went flying.
Go qbomb =D
looool Your love for qbomb never fails to impress me
Does it still take forever to charge ex qbomb? I want to use it but ex really takes too much time.
I’m pretty sure it’ll be a lot harder to tortilla people straight out of dp’s now, because dp’s go airborne faster now(to avoid trade to ultra). However they still miss and if you’re on your toes, that’s actually a lot better for fuerte since you get rsf instead of just a tortilla. I’d be surprised if it’s still possible to tortilla someone out of a dp now(test it if you have the game and can do this consistently in vanilla, I am curious to know). The way they handled taking out trade dp to ultra is pretty dumb imo, the thing I am going to miss is completely beating uppercuts with a jumping fierce in the right position and getting to rsf off of it, won’t be able to do that anymore.
If you could get an ex q bomb in 2 seconds like a TAP from rog, I’d use that move all the time. But it takes like 8 seconds, I can’t lose 2 kicks for that long unless my opponent is not playing the match right.
I caught my friend in vanilla off his reversal dps with ryu all day. To the point where stopped doing dps if I so much as ran back on his wake up.
Reversal dps were killing me in super. So it’s time to re-learn safe tortilla.
Also. As you remember in vanilla, Mago using guile and someone using fuerte. The fuerte player did tortilla and guile auto correct flash kicks the wrong way.
The same shit happens versus dudley’s jet upper… Something to take advantage of.
Cody’s Zonk knuckle charges fast. I’m gonna see if ex bomb charges faster. I’ll also test qbomb versus the new horizontal attacks in the game. If it works versus Juri’s pinwheel kick it will help
Speaking of which… does anyone know if Pinwheel kick eats safe tortilla alive?
Also, I’m quite sad if that’s true about tortilla no longer thwarting DP’s… weaker and less effective?
On another note, I’d like to thank everyone who has contributed in this thread. I started playing Fuerte probably around April/May of last year. I fought someone who ‘knew how to use him’ or so I thought… all they did was tortilla press cross ups, so I thought “hey, that’s how you play this guy, that’s pretty effective”…
I racked up quite a few wins this way… but as time passed, people became smarter… I didn’t, that was my only tactic and as soon as I met someone who could stop that tactic, I was doomed.
I didn’t play this game for several months… I picked it back up in February to start prepping myself for SSFIV. People have gotten even better and I was losing a lot, I realized I had to change my game. I watched the videos, read the match strategies on here, and have improved my game 100%. This community is really awesome, and I just wanted to let you know how you’re helping people with their game. Keep up the great work and I hope I can contribute some info in the near future!
Hooray for better fuertes
Reporting in! Meaty crHK beats Cammy’s reversal spiral arrow F+mk teleports you behind her on wakeup reversal cannon spike!
Hakan has an airthrow. Guy ex run one hit armor
Do not jump vs ultra 2 packing Abel unless at max distance. Otherwise you die.
Guy’s command airthrow catches you out of tostada press. Guac beats it though.
Bison ultra 2 hits low. Crosses up, can be distance controlled.
Cody is gonna be a hassle to run in on. Ruffian kick armor breaks. Lk/mk one stops ya cold and floors you. Early criminal upper is annoying. Bad stone using Cody is asking to get slapped up by you
Just a few questions to consider, Can you jump out of Bison ultra 2? Does guac and/or airthrow catch it?? I am going to try this once I get time
bison players will be looking to land it off of thier 2-hit mid air mp. Otherwise you can jump out that crap. I baited it by whiffing q-bomb and jumping right after.
It’s easy to hit him out of it in the air.
Thawk is fucked.
Tomahawk buster gets beat by guac and meaty slide(risky, as command grab owns that)
Condor dive gets beat by guac.
Condor dive gets punished by ultra 2 on block.
Condor dive gets beat by fajita and tostada done at very last second to use it’s invincibility
just watch out for whiffed condor dives. It recovers fast and if you don’t get out of there you’ll get command grabbed.
Thawk can’t catch fuerte. His speedy move, condor dive is easily beat so he can’t overuse it to try to close distance
Cody is a problem. Lk and mk ruffian stops run cold. Hk ruffian beats tostada.
this was like this in vanilla also.
Yeah I got ahead of myself. I thought meaty slide was beating cannonspikes. I hit some scrub. But two matches later a different cammy reversal spiked me. So I don’t know.
I think condor dive when blocked might be punishable by rsf. Same with juri dive kick.
Makoto seems to be a pain to airgrab.
Cody is giving me problems.
I’m enjoying my buhtface the hippo icon and Bitter Victor title. Something satisfying about taking 2x seconds to get opponent health down then running away the rest of the way for a T win. Lolol
right when I throw u2 me knowing I’ll land it. Im already charging ex qbomb. Get a crossup fierce > fierce > ex bomb for a kill or chip bomb kill
Would you double check that Guy EX run thing? Im pretty sure it has 2 hits of armour like ours does.