El Fuerte General Discussion Thread

No one needs your fake apology.

If you don’t like one guy’s contributions since he’s not godlike, contribute yourself? You specifically whined about how “I’m tired of being the only good fuerte in tournaments but just recently you mentioned a combo you have but that you’re “keeping it To yourself” good job contradicting yourself. Sacojericho doesn’t post and he was nice enough to give me some info Skisonic gave him. He " just plays now” but he said here have this info. And after asking permission I put it up, but you want to keep everything to yourself, and your tired of not seeing more Fuertes. Good shit son.

While we’re at it win some tournaments first since you have the available time to attend them and you’re oh-so-good. There’s your fuel.

Almost every time I’ve mentioned something risky like qbomb I’ve stated it’s risk. We even covered how you have to burn meter to keep the damn thing safe. Mentioning something does just as good a job convincing people what to and what not to use. So if they still insist on using it. That’s their problem.

Damn straight I’m a scrub, but if you feel I’m being useless. That fine by me, bro. I don’t have to be TKD good to contribute. If we had to these boards would be empty.

Edit: I must admit. This is hilarious.

These AE changes are tearing us apart

Way to go, Crapcom.

I’m just gonna wait on AE. Hopefully we get dlc for it. Veremos…

I’m not gonna disrespect myself or Peru further and keep arguing on a difference of opinion.

btw, fuerte can run back tortilla jump ins, problem solved. think more outside the box.

I know a couple of fuertes who barely post and do that.
and I dont have problem with fuertes who arent that good. because you learn everything yourself.
its just the fact that alot of people who do bad habits influence the other players that do them.

you guys gotta understand something too about normals. normals are situational, you already know this. but footsies comes to play, and thats what alot of fuertes dont have. yes you can play footsies somewhat. if you watch my match vs the realyst, i just hopkicked and cr.rh to get in all the time and did run stop pressure.

AE changes are horrible on paper but in the end I promise you they will make you a smarter overall player.
Andre from empire said hes scared after AE comes out on DLC because its gonna force fuerte players to play smarter and take spacing into consideration.

and I get what peru saying about “scrub” fuertes. Hes just pointing out that alot of people who havent proved much yet and talking like they know the remedies of alot of situations.

For example, Densuo… it seems like you play alot of theory fighter instead of street fighter itself. thats just off the way you talk on the baord, and like alot of stuff you mention is like really unsafe or doesnt work. its ok to do a risk, but risks are gimmicks.

contributing is general, but like if you contribute certain things that happened in matches or like ways to revise a tactic, or give an example of footsies you can do with fuerte, just little things like that could help fuertes get innovative.

I prefer run back tostada when I’m close to the corner. We don’t HAVE to counter everything. Positioning and reactions come into play. Considering the apparent loss of invincibility for tortilla on the way up we might lose tortilla as an option. That or run back farther.

Theory Fighter you say? I’ve asked questions or for confirmation on things I’m unsure of. And have (thankfully) been corrected when I’ve been wrong. I’ve been rancidly guilty of ignoring frame data though.

I’ve listed gimmicks in a seprate thread and emphasized it’s risk.

I’ve MADE IT A POINT TO STATE what Ive gotten out from my matches. I’ve posted what I find beats what almost immediatley from it happening. I start of by saying who I played and edit in corrections if the match was online after reviewing a replay.

I love your very broad generalizations though.

I have to ask. I understand you’re looking to step your game up, I’ll make it a point to emphasize what’s theory and what’s experience from matches, observations from a vid, or otherwise.

You know…When information is given, even “bad” information, it is helpful, because Every time I see Qbomb referenced, Immediately, several others provide input as to why this is bad…

A smart player weighs the comments, and then formulates their own opinion based upon their personal experience…

Lol u need to learn how to read vanilla was the one that said that he had a combo not me. And the reason I only mention things is to gauge if people will actually listen. What happens when I say q bomb is bad people agree then say but wait its still usable in this situation lol.

Edit: fuck that. I said I wasn’t gonna disrespect you. I’ll be sure to be more specific when I post and make sure it is nothing but beneficial.

I’ve been looking for a motivator to step my game up. Thanks (asshole).

Now then. One thing that’s been bugging me, and a feedback question.

Focus Attack. The damn thing has range but I find myself not using it except for building ultra.

Feedback being: has anyone tried gordita sobat after a tech’d grab? Sacojericho (via skisonic) mentioned it as handy.

thankk you, thats all we want. and you admitted on your wrongs from before, so your A okay now

I’ll be sure to q bomb you for real in ctf whenever we meet.

Someone please record that.

lmao… right. shut-in threat nice

I like qbomb in the cammy matchup, that’s probably the only matchup I use it in regularly.

they can drill and ultra for free though =\

I actually qbomb a crapload of friends in real life >_> usually scares The shit outta them. Not a threat. If it was. Trust me, You’d know. I’m not gonna start a fight over an exchange on the net. Cmon now. Actually it’d be nice to see some RSF hands in action.

Ill prolly go to ctf this sunday with my coudin and two friends in tow. We like to eat at The ramen spot right next door

Nope. Not touching qbomb on this one. I like down-back versus cammy since the bitch has no overhead.

I like killing the clock and maintaining mid-long distance with her, she doesn’t do a very good job at catching fuerte, and some of her bad guesses, like cannon spike (fake a wall jump) or how I’ve had some retards go for hooligan (crHP).

Her pressure game is troublesome. Her air throw is inferior, and RSFing her is fine because of her reeling animation.

My big beef is that pressure (block discipline…) and her dive kicks (unsure on frame data here for block/hit/whiff)

Question for everyone.
Her cannon drill hit box, I wonder if we can hit her out of it with far hk just Like we can smack bison out of Psycho Crusher (or in some cases go right damn through it) normally I just run back tostada. Screw it. I’ll check that first thing in the morning.

I’m not 100% sure of this:

I believe her Ultra 1 animation moves her back. I have a match saved where I am POSITIVE I went for safe tortilla, and she wake up ultra’s and I eat it, landing in front of her on two seperate occasions.

something I think will be handy for the matchup thread once AE is out. Perhaps we should include what tools (pokes, block strings, and frame traps that all competent players of ______ use) with frame data/listing of what we need to do.

Now THIS is the type of discussion we should be having :slight_smile:

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I remember getting hit out of s HK with SA before.

If Densuo leaves this board, I fucking leave.

Also, imo, Fuerte shouldn’t be playing too much footsies because he isn’t really a footsie character. I’m not saying get rid of footsies, just that you shouldn’t be relying on “Fuertsies” (footsies)

/$0.02

its ok chuck, you always have me for random fuerte mirrors