No they have a point, I’ve long since stopped posting and just lurk. The serious players will always be the ones in hiding because they truly want to get better.
Qbomb is a random move and should not be relied on and RSF is essential to winning at high level gameplay.
Cheers.
Even though i sometimes play which i see nothing wrong to a point … i agree FULLY on what your saying as well . your right , fuerte cant be considered a troll character … hes a better character than that and i feel i ( and other folks that are becoming more competitive ) have been trying to prove fuerte is alot better than ppl think since vanilla … i love to help and get helped . i wanna be known for my Fuerte skill not trolling lol i wanna prove that my skill with Fuerte has what it takes to win … we gotta bring eachother up (being silly and joking yea great!) but trolling ? i think it brings us to where other ppl want us to be … low and without hope heh we shouldn’t want that ya know?
Too much sugar. Some salt added.
I think everyone has a point. Naming normals, while stupid, put some focus on normals and basics. I doubt RSF will be changed from super to AE, so I’m still practicing that while still experimenting(losing) while doing other things. Sadly I still can’t do it but hey. Sooner or later I’ll correct whatever it is that’s fucking me up.
Right now what I know is we have several nerfs, one slightly vague buff, the rest is a question mark. When I’m loose and joking I play better as a whole be it adapting, block discipline, and enjoy the game. When I’m going hardcore serious I get my ass handed to me.
Q-bomb, I’ll stick to the stuff that went on in the Q bomb thread since it’s one big walking contradiction. You CAN use it in three situations. Laggy online matches that make rsf drop, beating horizontal moves, and as halcyonryu put it, in cases of extreme turtling. Read the thread.
We should be trying to win. But hey. If you can’t catch me why not piss you off with a wild goose chase? I’ve gotten easier wins having them eat ex run slide after their fireball turtling and countering instead of straightforward attack. Instead of playing serious aiming for the ko and getting one thing wrong and catching a lolcombo.
I play to win. I just take longer and I like to fuck around to see if I can get in their heads. It’s not crowd pleasing, but I win and I’m happy with it.
I’ll keep my enthusiasm. Thanks.
lol thats why I said in my post, I know you guys are trying to have fun. But you guys are all selling yourselves short by acting the way you do.
you do know that none of those strategies work offline right lol. Good players know that they can just corner you really easily just off of spacing. on xbox live, the shit you pull off will work because alot of the people just auto pilot when they play and worry about getting damage more than anything else. The type of people you win against are just clueless and worry too much during the match. Chances are that if you play a person whos pretty smart and knows how the game works, it would be really hard to beat them. You can’t tell me that you play better as a whole when your joking because in a post in the last page, you told me that when you go to Chinatown Fair, you just mess around and its barely a close match. Something like that. Come to think of it, I dont think ive ever seen you play, vids or anything so idk.
I would like to see how good q-bomb is, its only decent because people dont punish it. And you shouldnt try to win off of ignorance. plus the risk reward aint up there unless u have meter. why you think Peru and Bobatapioca get mad when you talk about it. its only good in the gief match up when he has no meter, if he green hands you get a free grab. I like the fact that you tried to implement it and stuff, but just the fact that frame data is what it is doesnt make it viable.
I just hope you guys weren’t serious when we said Troll Zoning for his playstyle (at least I wasn’t). As for QBomb, yes, I know it’s bad, but I believe everything has a purpose. Just like I was searching for uses for Taco Knee, I’m trying to find the best situations to use a, well, situational move.
ill give you a good use for j.mk
ONLY IN THE LEFT CORNER IT WORKS THOUGH.
if you got her in the left corner, do j.mk and itll hit her on the other side as if it was gonna cross her up, then you’ll land on the side you jumped from. so you can do j.mk and then RSF hoping they dont block the otherside.
and q bomb is useful in gief match with no meter thats it really
Here’s another:
As a jump in, you can combo into cr.LK which means you can then go into the RScr.MK loop.
When I get the chance, I want to see how useful QBomb is against Bison’s Head Press & Somersault Skull Dive and Devil’s Reverse as an anti-air.
you can say that about alot of other jump ins though. it can be used as a good safe jump on like sagat or fei long and then you can grab them afterwards since the hit stun is shorter than usual. then you can mix it up later with cr.mk loops.
I really hope for the acrade version of El Fuerte Capcom fixes his Tostada Press, Fajita Buster, and Tortilla hit-box. Because right now they completely miss my opponents way to often. When in vanilla they would at least hit the person or be blocked, but no they completely miss. Also Capcom needs to give Tostada Press more priority back to vanilla status. That move trades more in this game than vanilla and trades with standing/crouching light punch more often in this game.
I said I either destroy my opponents or get destroyed. There’s one guy, a viper, who I have close matches with.
I keep loose I relax. When I try too hard I get hard headed and Rigid. No flow. I get annoyed etc. It’s hard to describe.
I know what you’re talking about. In my Tae Kwon Do days, whenever I got mad, I was completely sloppy and I think the same applies here. So,
And 0. Have fun in doing everything.
Also. Lots of people think our aa is free. So I piss them off by running under them. That’s part of my spacing spab.
Dont waste your breath spab people are gonna do what theyre gonna do even if that means trying to use qbomb lol. Im done trying to help people or give advice to people that dont want it or are to ignorant to accept because they want to keep their shitty moves and enthusiasm. So let this forum keep on going and let people who dont even fully understand their character or how to use them keep on giving advice out. Sorry if im an asshole but im tired of being one of the only good tourney elfs.
Now I’m reminded that I hardly ever have the opportunity to go to tournies.
Lol? People think that its free because you don’t show them fuertes great aas. Like u2? Guac? Cr. Fierce? Why let up the opportunity for free damage by running away.
Idk man just saying bud.
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So quit. Simple as that.
I’ll keep my shitty move, Enthusiasm, and contribute. You’re gonna run your mouth and quickly apologize? Come on now.
I apologize. I wasn’t specific enough. Let me offer both an example AND expand my reasoning.
I’m meterless. guac trades with Sak’s, Ryu, Ken’s jHK and crFP loses. I have the life lead. I’ll run right under and back up to build meter to have ex guac or build ultra off of fireballs for u2.
I’m aware of Fuerte’s aa options. I’m stating many still feel he’s free and jump in anyway. Play to that “knowledge” kill clock, build meter. Condition them to feel they can jump more. Then make them pay.
Edit: I hate me MadCatz TE stick… Fuggin stick isn’t long enough.
You know… I just thought about something concerning the back run/ wall glitch…
Kinda just in my mind. Theory fighter style.
I think WHERE fuerte starts the back run is what causes the glitch
either that or it may be like what happens with Vega’s wall dive
Your not contributing at all of your “knowledge” that say your giving off out is making all the up and coming fuertes worse and practice the wrong things. lol I take my apology back then I will just be blunt im tired of scrubs trying to teach people when they dont know anything about character they r playing.
lol @ all this