I agree with this. I feel since U1 is MUCH harder to land, it should be stronger than U2 in the first place.
I feel Cammy is as tough as you LET her be. if she’s pressing the fight there’s gonna be problems
Ultra Spark nerf is expected tbh, it’s always a huge overkill anyway so I dont see it being much a problem if they nerf it by 50 or so dmg.
Dropkick buff, can’t see why this was needed, always found this normal to be great. If it gets better than thats a bonus.
Invincibility removed from start up of tostada is a little worrying.
I honestly don’t see why El Fuerte has developers time being wasted on him. Its not like he is beasting across the globe, can’t they concentrate on fixing the more broken characters?
On a seperate note, I came top 8 at a medium sized tournament. It was condensed mostly of very good players from the north and south of the UK. I unfortunately lost to Yota, our best Dhalsim player who used to main Fuerte a while back, he played the match so well, and it came down to the last round and he took it.
I then lost to Infexious’ Bison (dictator) which IMO is one of Fuertes worst match-ups, could be 8-2. However I did find out that the 2nd hit of the target combo mk, mk - beats psycho crusher, even the EX version! A very useful tool indeed.
Shame there are no videos of the matches until top 4.
We need a Fuerte army at the next loke test to beat up Ono for nerfing Tostada lol
IMO, Dropkick WAS a great normal in vanilla, now its just decent. Hopefully it returns to its original form.
Good to hear you did well Dawg, keep repping that Fuerte. I agree that Bison is one of the hardest for Fuerte, but no way its 8-2, what makes you say this?? Thats pretty much broken!!! I honestly think Fuerte’s hardest matchups are 6.5-3.5 advantage to the other opponent at worst, if not just 6-4.
bleh fix his stupid guac glitch if they have enough time to nerf him
TBH, it looks like they have nerfed all the scrubby spammy shit. Invincibility gone from splash is worrying, but it made it a cheesier move really. Same thing with the U2 nerf.
Same across the board.
eg: Akuma/Ryu escape tatsu nerf. Blanka ball nerf. Seth j.hp removal. Even bisons U2 being changed to a charge command. Makes me wonder what the invincibility on DP’s is like in this build.
It looks like capcom are nerfing the dumb shit. Not because its super strong or overpowered, but because its dumb and spammy. Knowing that capcom are trying to make the game less lolspam, this whole build has, literally in the last 2 minutes, started looking a lot more appealing to me tbh.
All the seemingly random nerfs suddenly look a lot more intelligent.
Hola!
This wekeend I get top 5 on the most important spanish (spain) tournament at moment called “Pride”, I am very happy with my results on all tournament, especially on pools bracket, and winners until winners semifinal where I lose vs HellTPM (top EU M.Bison player), and then in losers bracket I lose Against a very good Abel player (Kenichi).
I found vs M.bison is a more than hard matchup, is not possible to do correctly El Fuerte gameplay if M.bison knows what to do, and Abel matchup is possible to win, but he does lot of damage and is not easy to escape where you are under abel mixups.
I found this video on my elimination, I don’t play well, I fail to land ultra on his jumps, I do unsafe moves like calamari slide, I do some stupid things to escape from his pressure and the most important, I eat 2 wake up ultras that maybe were predictable and I lose my concentration after that, of course, nerves are present too.
Any help/advices is ever appreciate!
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Gracias a todos!
gentlemen. El Fuerte has gone Rudo (Heel) we get to fight dirty now >:D
I can see it now! El Fuerte guacamole’s an opponent. Then splats a bowl of guac in the fa-STRIKE A MUSCULAR POSE!!!
Seriously now, ultra 2 nerf on second thought is ok. We still get to charge max q bomb or rev up ex bomb. We still get a free crossup.
Tostada invincible nerf? Ok. We still have tortilla invincibility. Fireball spam means we get to get our timing right and start building meter/ultra more and feint with ex run for shenanigans.
OMG That costume is SICK!
For any of you guys who feel like coming to Canada in November. I think I’m the only fuerte attending so far, I’d like it to be more than just me.
honestly considering dropping the game if these changes stay. Ultra 2 was a huge tide turner for fuerte, ive won many round w a proper armor cancel. y cant fuerte have one move that does mad dmg, everything else does so lil compared to half the cast. also whats the point of removing invincibility on tostada, that move is unsafe like hell. hopefully they realize these nerfs are retarded and leave him be or return him to vanilla status.
I think the developers, at the very least, try to make sure Fuerte has good costumes. I was hoping for El Fuerte Santo like they had in the concept art, but this will do. Now I’m really split between this one and his Aztec one. Maybe I’ll make one a Face, and the other a Heel.
buff some of his moves…for fuck sake the rule of fighters is that if you take something away you are suppose to give something back…just nerfing U2 should not be fuerte’s only change
loving fuerte’s new “heel” alternate 3…seeing as how im a heel fuerte player (alt 2. color 10)
hell it even has the traidtional mexican tatoo’s…sold…
Would it be too much to ask that EX guac grab grounded standing opponents at close ranges? Maybe a command grab in place of Q bomb? I new move that combos from c.mk? Something new that’s useful?
Just so you know, it’s any move that leaves the ground from run doesn’t have invincibility
Fuerte looks so badass in his new costume that wearing it alone should make him stronger lol
I never thought any new Fuerte costume could be as good as the Aztec outfit, but this one comes darn close. Between my natural bias towards a character’s original costume, the beautiful detail on the Aztec alt, and the absolute badass design for the new one, I will be at a loss of which to choose!
Well, we don’t know everything that’s been changed in the current build. I think it’s safe to assume that some buffs will be obtained in compensation.
As for the tatoos, I noticed that as well. The dead giveaway to the traditional Mexican style was the skull. For the longest time, I never understood Mexico’s obsession with skeletons, but connecting it to Dia de Los Muertos makes more sense.
Do we need more people to be salty after fighting El Fuerte? YES!
A command grab would be nice, but I can’t see that working with Fuerte’s style, but then I don’t see how holding down K fits his style either with Q Bomb.
Qbomb needs to be a directional input move.
QCB+K? If they’re gonna nerf the shit out of Fuerte (for reasons that are beyond me), at least give him that.
SBO: Daigo’s in TKD’s block.
Also, dat costume. Thank you, Capcom.
I remember thinking about that before Super came out. Now I think that would be a bad idea because if you mess up your cr. mk or cr/st. lk loops you get q. bomb.