El Fuerte General Discussion Thread

Far mk also goes into cl mk in tc. Wait. Doesn’t clmk cancel into run?

Regardless. Don’t get caught up in the frame data. My opponents reactions to it are what makes me consider using mk like that.

Paper - J.RH always crosses Rufus up in the corner.

Bison is my kryptonite. Seriously considering finding a solid secondary character to counter Bison’s. :\

Bison’s a dic. The worst thing about him is that one of the top players in Louisiana plays him.

According to the Japanese wiki tier list, a good counterpick against him would be Chun-Li, Honda, Guile, or Zangief.

Otherwise, I think crossups, air grabs, and a hell of a lot of patience are helpful against him. If all else fails, get the life lead.

Yeah, we have like 6 solid Bison’s in the Northwest. It’s kind of disgusting. To win I have to play turtle Fuerte which really doesn’t fit how I like to play the game very well.

bisons not that bad. when bison has charge, dont try to run to cover space. always walk forward. I played andre’s bison (from empire arcadia) and it went down to the last round, but he caught me with an ultra on my tortilla =(

I do alot of run stop neutral jump because alot of players like to catch when you run. so with those incorporated, it kinda makes them iffy if they should throw something out randomly. after scissor kick, dont tech just block.

Well. If ya wanna win you gon have to.

Standing far mp stuff his roundhouse. Don’t run at him.

If you get the life lead bison becomes totally readable. He’ll start moving forward to engage with normals,

sneak in a shower kick

focus as he doesn’t have 2-hit normals.

Don’t get air grab happy. Easy way to get psyched out.

Gotta weather the pressure. Oh and you can’t ultra spark lk scissors.

If he has ultra 2 no more ambiguous crossups, slide, off the run moves.

I found run stop clmp and late corpsehop to be a good bait.

This is funny because Im a bison player who alts fuerte. But I hate fighting fuertes as dic. I mean, teleport is the only reliable escape out of vortext and that is terribly unsafe. Tostada beats psycho crusher, headstomp is really dangerous against fuerte and DR is pringles to EX Guac. Not to mention if the fuerte is not an idiot (i.e. not getting caught by scissors while running) then it’s really hard to get a clean knockdown. Fuerte’s erratic movement also really puts a wrench in my pressure/corner lockdown game.

If im fighting a fuerte, i go for the mirror.

Okay, I’m still practicing RSF for more than two hits and a slide (it’s just reaction from here on), and I’ve noticed that doing RSF on Hakan is even harder than doing it on Ryu, but you can slide him with no problems. If my timing isn’t off, he may have the shortest retraction.

hakan u can only do up to 3 consistently. rsf to reset is fine, watch out for u2.

PLEASE don’t be fake.

omg that one with the cape looks A-MAZING

That it does, but not the one that’s to the left of it.

Watch that Fuerte gets this and Bison STILL doesn’t get his cape.

:tdown: Not feeling any of those, but at least they’re not overly outra- oh wait.

Maybe with the cape he can have more stun with RSF.

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Shoutouts to the Fuerte cosplayer and awesome Dhalsim cosplayer lol

Also shoutouts to having the Fuerte theme overpower the speech LOL

u can hit hakan with cr.rh lol. and you can stop slide with standing lk. kuma taugh tme that =)

I figured that s.LK would stop it because you can use any LP attack to stop Blanka Balls.

So, s.lkxxsuper is a feasible reaction punish for a Hakan slide?

cr. mk is would be better imo, but cr or s. lk would work too.

i dont ever recommend using super unless its to finish them off. i need those four bars to run D: but i would just block the slide and mash grab, if you s.lk and he’s mashing 360 it’ll probably get you. Someone should test if reaction far roundhouse would work.