Is there a general discussion thread in the Dudley forum? I couldn’t find one… Anyway… Since this is the beginners thread I figured it’s as good a place as any to say what I want to say.
I’m a Cammy main and I’m doing the C to shining C trophy and learning every char in the game. I am learning Dudley atm. And boy is he FUN to play. I’m still a beginner but I’m trying to get down the basics. I’ve done most of his trials (22 out of 24) and I’m trying some BnB combo’s. I mainly use cr.lp x cr.lp; cr. mp xx Jet Upper because the timing is pretty similar to one of Cammy’s combos I use a lot.
At first I thought Dudley sucked because I thought he had no way to deal with fireballs. That is (as you all know) not the case. That duck is a.w.e.s.o.m.e.
I’m definitely picking up Dudley as an alt to my Cammy. Main reason I chimed in here is because the info on these pages has helped me tremendously. So: thank you to all the die hard Dudley eficionados. You made my life a little bit easier. And as far as I can tell: a lot more fun.
edit: Cammy and Dudley are both British, I’m not but maybe there is a connection as to why I like to play them? And I just made C rank. Woot!
I’ve been reading around about SSFIV Dudley because I used to play Dudley in 3S. Clearly things are different now but he still appeals to me, some questions:
On op wakeup the Overhead/low game appears to be negated by FA backdashing. Does Dudley have an option select like Boxer to at least beat the backdash? Would an OS scoop beat backdash?
Is there a use for thunderbolt? The move wasn’t in 3S so I’ve never seen it used before. People say it can crossup like Sumo Splash?
I don’t think you can os the scoop off of fa backdash, but you can do something about it. For all non command grabbers you can do crouch short xx jab mgb and you’ll be safe. I’m not very clever, so I’m sure there are more. You can try doing the target combo off the dartshot, but I don’t know if that works.
Remember Mochi (Dhal) vs Daigo (Ryu) in the first Godsgarden Online Tourny?
Remember Daigo’s forward throw to lvl3 meaty FA?
Dudley can do this pretty much the same way.
My question: vs Blanka, doing EX MGB > LK Duck Straight > LP MGB, the LP MGB is whiffing. I’ve been trying for good amount of time and haven’t hit it once.
doesn’t LP MGB connect after MK ducking straight juggle? if im going combos after EX MGB, I always do MK ducking straight/upper, unless corner(then LP ducking…)
I have an embarrasing confession to make, I don’t use focus pretty much at all and suck majorly at using it. It is mainly because I mained balrog at vanilla and therefore never really needed to learn it. Now VS good players duds other pokes and tools are just not enough(especially vs chars that poke below the all mighty fierce punch), focus is after all a really important part of duds arsenal. I know focuses properties and the technical stuff, but I’m having huge difficulty implenting it to my gameplay.
My question stands that when should I focus and how should I react to opponent reaction when I start focusing? What are the character specific stuff that I should counter with focus?
I know in the end I can only learn it by using it, but I want at least know the basic rather than start throwing it and wishing for the best.
Depends on the character. You need to focus pokes that characters can get away with otherwise like Ken’s forward mk. Shoto crouch forward not always a good idea since that is going to buffered into a fireball a lot. Also, even though it seems crazy, don’t always fadc forward with Dudley since he’s actually -1 on block with a level 1 FA
Hi Ciry, I had the same problem as you. I, too, played the other Boxer and never bothered learning to FA properly. I didn’t start properly using Dudley’s FA until a few weeks ago. I learned to use FA by overusing it. Just do it a lot, more often than you should. It’ll feel more natural and you’ll learn first hand when and what to FA and when and what not to FA.
Yea I suppose the only way to learn it properly is to get your ass handed to you I’ll try that Blanka juggle once I get home from work, lk straight after ex MGB doesn’t work on everybody afaik, but I haven’t noticed anyone that it hits but can’t juggle after.
FA is best used right outside of range of your opponent’s poke range, beacuse if they whiff that poke or it barely touches you, you release FA to catch their limbs = free combo or if you don’t think you’ll get them you can back dash cancel to be safe
Yea, either it’s even harder than the mk. straight to LP MGB or it just doesn’t hit at all so I guess you should use mk vs blanka anyway, I’ll still try when I get home.
Hell yea! I thought Dudley couldn’t get any more classy but Capcom showed me alright
I’ll try that Blanka juggle once I get home from work, lk straight after ex MGB doesn’t work on everybody afaik, but I haven’t noticed anyone that it hits but can’t juggle after.