Dragon Ball FighterZ: Legendary Saiyans Edition

You can have with invincible assists and still be balanced. Just look at Skullgirls. All they need to do is implement them properly, e.g. giving a GTFO assist invul is fine, giving one that locks down, or leads to mixups/opening people up, maybe not.

Well that explains the Frieza Assist nerf.
They did say that stronger characters would have weaker assists, and so far, some of the weaker (Canon or otherwise) characters have some pretty good assists.

Sounds good enough for me.

What was the frieza assist nerf?

In older builds, the Freeza explosion tracked where the opponent was. Now itā€™s a set distance

Either that or it went from point blank to a set distance out. Regardless, it went from a super quick get off me move to a combo assist

Or you know, do the more reasonable thing and actually give value to the assists outside invincible stuff that motivates people to use them.

I think that you can manage to do all of that without needing to give invivibility to the assists just because

Iā€™m planing on playing a zoning team if beerus, freiza and kid buu

Or anything that canā€™t be super dashed through

Beam assists will be good for zoning teams because of the whole super dash thing.

They are saving it for Broly (who did use them in movie 8).

Makes sense, Nappa is a lot stronger and better than freiza so nappas tracks and freizas doesnā€™t.

Itā€™s also mad slower. Nappa comes out, does a flourish, THEN something blows up. Freezaā€™s was practically instant

Thatā€™s why I donā€™t think gohans dp is frame 1 invincible because the assist has to warp in first before they start their animation. I think gohan is vulnerable at that point

Max Warning. Providing the GINYU FORCE RULES! GINYU FORCE RULES! GINYU FORCE RULES!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS3d-0usCLE

So yeah, the Ginyu Force is on a set rotation and using QCF+Ki you can have them perform a different attack. Ginyu only has 1(or 2?) special moves alone to setup for the bodyswap. Max didnā€™t say (maybe I didnā€™t catch it) whether or not the Ginyu Force disappears upon hitting Ginyu himself (Burter/Jeiceā€™s QCF+Ki assist both look really strong and Guldoā€™s looks useful too).

Iā€™m trying to decide if giving your opponent a disabled Ginyu is better than actually using the character.

Max also didnā€™t show off all the Ginyu Force options. There is AT LEAST one more of Recoome doing the Ultra Fighting Miracle Bomber.

Do you have footage of that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOj3MfmWTMg
@3:51
We donā€™t see damage, but true to the show, itā€™s got RIDICULOUS startup. Ginyu does the same pose as Recoome doing a blaster so I think it might be random

Just be opportunistic. Iā€™d look at it less like a handicap and more as a big heal. Judging by the speed in the video I think it should be possible to combo into it using assist combined with stuff like the purple comet.

@Colonel-Gilgamesh

Interestingā€¦Yeah, maybe itā€™s random because I canā€™t see a reason for him not going over that (other than time restraints, actually). I wonder if anything else special mightā€™ve been left out.

Honestly, Ginyu could probably fall into the ā€˜keepawayā€™ category. Heā€™s able to put a LOT of shit on the screen especially if he can choose the order.

Choose the tree for Guldo (Ki), Recoome mouth blast (QCF), and then EITHER Burter QCF w/ Jeice Ki or Burtur Ki w/ Jeice QCF. They intentionally made Burturā€™s shit really good so youā€™d have to choose whether to use him for the ā€˜Patrol the skiesā€™ move or team him up with Jeice to rain destruction.

Itā€™s a nice rotation for filling the screen and all you really need is a basic beam character to cover the gaps,

Itā€™s also worth noting that Ginyu uses meter the least of any character so far, so heā€™d make a good starting battery

I thought that Burterā€™s choices were Patrol and Gohan Kicks while Jeiceā€™s were Blast from the air and patrol w/Burter. Seems like two pretty obvious choices to me (Unless there was something I missed). I never even thought of keepaway for some reason, but yeah, that seems like a good place for him.

Ginyu/Beerus/K.Buu already sounds frustrating.