I’m willing to bet the opponent can counter TAC so its more a reset with benefits situation.
However, I bet you can setup a no TAC situation like with the TAC XFactor TAC again bug.
Fuck your Phoenix, why waste my X Factor?
Yeah they can counter as normal, but I know you can at least combo off the up version, though it’s a little harder. Haven’t tried the side version, might not be possible because it will throw them away lol.
I wouldn’t worry about it, Keits and the front page crew wouldn’t know quality material if it bit them in the ass. They’re idiots.
Just to be clear: TAC glitch down, jump immediately TAC side. If its within 15 frames of their last counter TAC attempt they CANNOT counter the side TAC. Incoming character then murders Phoenix off the wall bounce. I’m suggesting we test that setup.
If it works just like the Xfactor TAC glitch we have a way to 50/50 steal a meter from Phoenix that leads to death. Ima try it but on pad may be a while…
Ah that makes sense, could be possible. I think you have to actually combo something into an exchange though don’t you? so it’ll probably have to be extremely tight.
Alright it doesn’t look like its anti phoenix tech yet. I was able to do it consistently by doing bukloop, instead of landing fly, down/side TAC.
So I found some things.
Their height doesn’t matter. The trick is that Doom hits them and lands before/during the exhange animation and cancels it. The reason its not anti phoenix is landing cancels your ability to TAC. Only landing a launcher will retrigger that. Perhaps someone who knows the rules to TACs can add something to this.
I’ll be curious to know how it affects damage, hit stun scaling, and hit stun decay. It would be sick if you can do exchange glitch, and then jump up and do fly swag combos you would normally do off of TACs into doom, but I doubt that, it would be too awesome.
Guess the only way it would be useful is surprise factor and hope people don’t mash exchange counter the entire combo time.
Btw, Maziodyne sweet combo. I’ll be using that in the corners now too because its so dam pretty.
I really underestimated how quickly you have to do the inputs for this combo but after that it becomes extremely easy ( and consistent as far as I can tell )
think i saw marlin pie try this on the curley mustache stream. i think.
marlin pie uses a j. m add m sj. m add m rom-ish loop, somebody else did try it 1 time and dropped it though im not sure who it was.
also if you have issues in the combo with the character being juggled too high to land the 3rd or 4th S, you can identify when its happening and you can add slight delays to the S in the 1st and 2nd reps to fix it
yeah I generally just do a Magnetic Blast-esque motion as soon as I land the S which is :u::uf: then :f:+:h:. you need to be really fast with landing the j.Ls as those will keep the opponent at minimum height. anything but j.Ms (I think this goes for all characters) will keep them at the height at which you hit them at.
Yeah tried this yesterday and landed it once in training mode.Tried again and was landing it about 80% of the time.Its really not that hard, looks cool and does better damage than my previous corner loop. Muscle memory ftw!
Update on this since spooky uploaded the curly mustache replays on youtube. Has an optimized version of what marlin was doing during the other streams. Starts @2:19:
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Looks like:
(Down Exchange), L, M (1 hit), f+H, adf, L, M (1 hit) xx Fly, L, L, adu, L, L, adf, L, L, M (1 hit), aduf, L, L, M (2 hits), M (2 hits), H, M (1 hit), M (1 hit), L Plasma Beam, M (2 hits), add, (land), L (?) Molecular Shield, Sphere Flame
Just looking at it before putting any work in, it doesn’t seem to work on up exchange, probably need to take the first L, M out and do M, M instead. Probably also won’t be close enough to the ground to land and keep the combo going, so I guess end with [L Plasma, M (2), f+H, S].
Might also be able to change the bit after landing to a rejump, M, f+H, S and end like a regular corner combo for a better DHC (or Lv3). If not then just do it before landing.
Time to hit the lab!
Jumping up after landing will be pretty much next to impossible to connect, especially if you want to stick that many hits in before the landing. If you really want to gun for the level 3, you can end the combo in a lot of places with j. S. Yeah, essentially the ending to the combo will work on the up exchange. On the up exchange, you just go:
Laser, M (1), M (1) xx L Plasma Beam, M (2) xx L Plasma Beam, M (1), M (1), H Molecular Shield
The M after the first L Plasma beam may or may not need a delay depending on how high you start off the combo. Personally, I stick with j. M’s during flight since it’s easier to control the opponent’s height (which is important for making the laser gun get all the hits in).
So yeah I just noticed that, for whatever reason, if you exchange up, you don’t seem to be able to air dash up (or up-forward) during flight mode. You get the animation, but you won’t actually move up. I tried it during Storm exchange combos and it happens to her as well. I guess that one will just have to be M&Ms instead of Ls.
I wonder if that’s a bug? I’m well below the stage height limit and the dash works if I don’t go into flight mode.
It’s possible to do a mid-screen variation of maziodyne’s loop for 2 or 3 reps, though it doesn’t seem to be any better than other mid-screen combos. I just think it’s fun and looks cool.
S > sjc, [j.L-f+H xx airdash df, j.H (whiff) |> f+H > sjc] x n
maziodyne i didnt see the tweet but the combo looks nice, will have to test it out as soon as i get a chance
I love the wild Marlin Pie corner combo… reminds me of MVC2.
Lots of Danger Room fun 
Sry if this has been stated , but I’m new to doom , do all the vanilla combos on the first few pages still hold together? Or is there a new set of combos generally done ?
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side TAC… i got these imputs.
ADDF… wait, 
(2 hits) , ADDF , (1 hit) , land, jump, :l: , ADUP , :l: , :l: , (1 hit) , ADF , :l: , :l: , (2 hits) , LASER , ( 1 hit) , ( 1 hit) , L. Plasma Beam , (2 hits) , land , Molecular shield , Special