Playing with DaFeetLee for the first time, lets see how well we do… I’m scared…
Gabe Newell comments on the DBR fiasco. Starts at 18:16 if the embedded timestamp doesn’t work
Transcription courtesy of reddit
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Question: In the Dota 2 Beta, you guys elected not to implement a viewable rating system and recently DotaBuff – they implemented one and you guys updated it so that they do not have access to that data anymore unless the player allows it. I was wondering why you guys did it, and what’s your take on that and whether there will be a rating system implemented.
Answer: The rating system they were using was kinda crappy. We think that the idea is fine, it was just lousy implementation. And the changes that we made were specifically to give users more control over how their data work. And the DotaBuff guys sorta freaked out about it. We still think we’re sorta making the right decisions on both of those, which is trying to provide a different, more robust mechanism so people know how well they play and also making sure that people don’t feel like… So one of the important characteristics of the system is how secure it feels to people. And that’s true of identities and true of properties and things like that. It’s something that we’re always conscious of – that we want to build systems that feel trustworthy to people. Because there are actually a lot of real economic values that have implications in a specific and predictable fashion. And that includes us and what we allow or enable participants in the system to do. That’s kind of a long-winded way of saying we think we did the right thing
Question: Will you implement a better rating system directly to Dota 2?
Answer: Oh, Yeah. We are in the process of doing that. We think that the one we have right now which DotaBuff is using is actually a crappy one that we did before we had a better idea of how to do it. We want people to add value because that’s what we think is the key to successful games going forward. To enable people to do stuff like adding value by generating replays, commentaries of replays, or coming up with clever ways of evaluating players or predicting which team will win. All those, to us, look like content creation. All of them, look to us, like things we have to fit within a framework that we’re properly designing.[/details]
What I read there:
- ELO is a crappy rating system
- You’ll be able to get better rating by doing commentaries (??)
… Uh?
Next thing we know, Gabe will introduce a rating system where you get 0-10 pts based on player choice who was the LVP-MVP.
/me is confused.
He is saying that they can allow players to add commentary to replays, which increases the value to consumers.
like soundcloud?
watching pinoy vs pinoy teams in SEA league is great. It’s like kill kill buyback tp kill kill fuck farming
They need to add a replay feature so people can watch replays together. So crucial for teams that want to review their mistakes.
I think you wanting to piss in your own mouth was causing you to piss in your own mouth.
And I’ve been playing Templar Assassin and Dragon Knight. TA’s build is simple for me, I just go 3 iron wood branches, tango, salve, and try to rush a bottle, then depending on who I’m fighting, I’ll build a magic stick, if not I just get power treads and try to build into blink dagger. Then go right into deso bkb. If there are any tweaks there to be made, please let me know.
you don’t need a salve. you don’t even need the tango. the trend right now is to just do 3 branches into bottle. You should get the bottle first wave and you get the regen when you get it. Refraction is a stupid skill. if you miss rune just bottle crow and farm then faceroll because TA is an easy cheesy hero and requires zero skill.
only times you don’t rush bottle are against batrider (you need boots asap) and dual lanes with killing potential (get boots).
The correct way to play TA is to buy whatever you fucking want to, mash the refraction button, and then roll your face on the goddamn keyboard.
I hate that hero so much. Her and dark seer can die in a fucking fire.
Seriously though, Autisterella’s advice is good, listen to him.
Is there a steam group or chat room that people from shoryuken use?
I remember one game where someone randomed TA on the opposing team. I decided to pick Batrider because 1) I love playing the hero, and 2) he counters TA in laning. The TA was mad the whole game, even when they were winning. :lol:
I assume that TA didn’t buy a magic wand?
magic wand > Batrider.
I’m a TA user as well. In fact it’s my most succesful hero, % wise W/L. Usually, when I am mid, I only get 1 set of tango and rush bottle then boots then rush the dagger. I usually get dagger around 7 or 8 min depends on the runes I get. If I get 1 or 2 haste, then most of the time that assures 1 or more kills for rushing dagger then go on raping from there.
When I am assigned to sidelanes, I get a soul ring for mana boost for ganking, then boots, then dagger.
Dagger is essential for TA because you can use it for escape and initiation.
I don’t get Power Treads or Phase Boots before dagger cause it delays my dagger which would give me the early kills, but it also depends on the game. And the MS, AS, DMG you get is not that significant. Also, you don’t need the HP boost from Treads if you know how to manage your refraction and its cooldown.
Sure, magic wand is great vs batrider, but you still get outlaned badly.
phase opens up a fuck ton of kill opportunities (+24 dmg off of meld -armor is far from insignificant) and brown boots into dagger sounds awful and magic stick is hardly a counter to batrider. You still have to back the fuck off after 2 napalm stacks or you risk dying but the free mana to spam refraction is nice but again refraction isn’t going to save you if the bat decides to dive you at 3+ stacks.
Refraction nerf was rough on her
Yeah, no one really counters Bat 1v1, if I recall. That hero is way too good in 1v1 laning situations. I’m not actually sure who else really beats TA at mid.
Dark Seer, OD makes life rough for her too
Any sustained damage to expend Refraction charges is great vs her. Dark Seer, Gyro and QoP are great vs TA, Jakiro and Veno gives her trouble, Tinker has March - arguably the most annoying spell in the game (together with Illuminate, Relocate and Tombstone)…