DotA 2

RIP DotaBuff. Was a cool website. :frowning:

I recently picked up Clinkz and he’s become my main hero. I love the little shit. I was getting tired of all the Trax and sniper players… now I can just appear behind them and mow them down in 3 seconds. feels good man

If you really want to be an asshole and gank squishies, there’s no one better at it than Nyx Assassin.

Played a game that had sb and naix on the other team.

Charge + infest = gg anywhere on the map :frowning:

Ah yes strategy let us discuss strategy

PS is anyone actually good at this game. tried playing with honzo gonzo but he’s soft as table butter at this game

I’m ~2k DBR and not making shit up like vulpes pm me for steam account

LOL

P.S. DBR is private, so to “prove” it you’ll have to send your entire login data and have someone else login with your Acc

this quote combined with your funny pumpkin head business man avatar is humorous.

Take a screen shot. Honor code = no paint edit.

Indeed. I can make my rating 5555 in paint without any idea about editing. If my real rating was 1250, making 2015 out of it is really, really easy.
So you might as well not take a screenshot at all and just tell. Who cares who believes what.

More like who really cares. Unless you’re making that Esports money by being pro, in the end it doesn’t matter if you’re a pub master. It’s kind of fun to put ratings next to your name and all, but in the end it doesn’t really matter.

I’m already getting people in my games throwing DBR around. “I’m 1600 platinum, what are you, noob” etc. I’m starting to see why this system is a bad thing.

Your play determines if your rating is good or bad, not the other way around. You cannot legitimize a decision simply off of your score, and if you do, I’m going to assume you’re retarded.

I’M LEARNING GEEZ

Where’s the difference between “You fucking cocksucking moron your mother should die of cancer” and “You fucking cocksucking moron your mother should die of cancer, man you only got 1300 rating”?
People will always flame. It’s the internet, it’s a teamgame, it takes a lot of time, it’s easier to blame others for one’s own faults (just like people in FGs blame “lame” and matchups and “laggy setups” and whatnot), and the DotA community has been a pile of shit for as long as I can remember.
Whether you’re naked flamed or they’re directing the hate at some number doesn’t change the fact that you’re getting flamed. Massflame gets beaten by a working Report system, not by hiding stats.

I’ll just crossquote myself from dev.dota

need to get a stack party going.

add my latest account:

I don’t care about your skill level just don’t get pissy and flame teammates. instead flame our enemies.

How do I make the transition from League to DOTA? o_O

mostly you watch a lot of videos and read shit.
here this should help

The difference is in that somebody can flame you off of rating alone, immediately forming a bias against you without ever having seen you play, often literally before the match even starts you’re discounted as a player. It happened in HoN, it happened in League. If you’re brown/pink, you’re going to get flamed if you call mid. If somebody in your ranked game looks up your league profile on some stats website and sees your rating/recent match history sucks, you’re getting flamed.

Having played the three, however (HoN where it’s immediately visible, League where it can be seen on a website with an alt tab and minor effort, and up until recently Dota 2, where it was entirely invisible), I am still not sure what method I prefer. As a fledgling, I would have liked access to my own “DBR” to measure my success or lack thereof and give me motivation to play and improve, and I can also see how ratings can help cultivate a better “competitive” playerbase. But, as somebody with enough experience to have seen it (stats) done every apparent way possible, I was fond of Valve making everybody blind, for multiple reasons.

The problem that HoN had was the lack of a stable playerbase. To have matchmaking queues in reasonable times, you’d get an MM team with ratings spanning from 1900-1500 even if all of you Solo Queued.
This problem isn’t present in DotA. Unless you’re really high up, you should always find a full game (yourself+all teammates+all enemies) within 100 rating points - making flaming useless (or rather discouraging it, because “you suck ass” hardly works on same ratings - then again I guess people would pull out the “you got carried from better people” card).

As said, the only issue pops up if you as a high rated player do a teamqueue with a low rated friend. This is an issue that will ALWAYS be present unless there’s a separate Team MM introduced, and it legitimately fucks up games anyways (the performance of 8 guys pretty much becomes irrelevant and it becomes a dicetoss whether the ‘pro’ can carry hard enough to keep up with the noob’s feeding - it’s no fun for nobody, and with ratings you can at least get ready for a game like that rather than running Spectre cause you expect some guy to babysit you and then ending up with the 900 in lane who just keeps dying nonstop).

Also as noted, private stats are perfectly fine. You can make up whatever rating to counterflame etc whatever, I don’t care. I just want to play around with statistics, whether other people see them too or not is of secondary importance.
Penis contests with my mates are possible if stats are invisible and we just tell each other who got what, too, and that’s ultimately the most fun aspect of it.

P.S. Rating in a teamgame where you can choose your teammates and even the game mode will never tell anything meaningful. 1800 can both be a total noob that just plays AP with his 4 nerdfriends that stomp everything, or a pretty decent player that plays CM solo queue only and fights nerdstacks (plus in general the avg skill level in CM is higher).
Always remember, it’s just for fun.

P.P.S. Dotabuff has always sucked, I don’t really get why people are so upset about the page getting bombed. I just want statistics, not some random page - and the page didn’t provide any meaningful ones (well maybe with Plus they did, but that was ArcSys level cashgrab)

That’s a good point. With matchmaking “accurate” enough, DBR debauchery will probably not be an issue. (Call me a cynic, but I think people would foam at the mouth using anything possible, even a gap of just 50 points. They want something to blame, and they find it, reasonable or not.)

I concur. There are good aspects to having rating visible, competition between friends is a notable one. I spent the day DBR went live comparing ratings and holding discussions over the revelations it brought, mainly the rift between skill levels in the people I queue with. One thing that struck me is that everybody I spoke to agreed with where they were placed - I was surprised at how accurate the system seemed, and I know at least I will be adjusting my play based on what I’ve learned thanks to it. When handled responsibly, rating is a constructive thing…but unfortunately, when I’m outside of premades, I only ever see it used as a tool to attack people.