Do's and dont's for your first MvC3 tournament

Classic Fighting Games Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3
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Hey there guys…

Today i went to my first MvC3 tournament… I didnt know what to expect and in the end i payed the price, i got second place when i could easily had taken the first one…

I know this sounds like a rant or like a very salty loser, but its not like that, players need to know how things can go bad and when to accept or not any weird rules the organizer comes up with, this is going to be just a narration of what my (as a noob in this department) first tournament was like…

So the tournament was set up to start at 3pm…

Guess what? It was 3:30pm and nothing had started… It was until 4:30 pm that they started to gather the participants… So far, not good… anyway, i search for the organizer and when i locate him i proceed to pay the fee to enter to the tournament.

Organizer: Its 5 bucks
Me: Ok (pays the money) thanks!
Organizer: We start in 5 minutes! (not true, we started an hour and a half later…)

20 minutes later i notice that everybody is using pads… xbox 360 pads to practice… nobody had a fightstick…

Guess what i had in my backpack?? MY FIGHTSTICK… i started to panic a little, i said to myself “damn, they better not think that i shouldnt be using a fightstick… naaa i dont think they are like that… naa talk to the organizer, he will solve any problem… yeah…”

So i go to the organizer and he tells me…

Organizer: Im sorry btu you wont be able to play with THAT in this tournament
Me: Why?
Organizer: Its not going to be fair to the other, a fightstick gives you an unfair advantage over your opponents
Me: X_x
Organizer: But i would let you play with it, only if all the other participants agree to it…
Me: Ok…

All the other participants: " severe whining…" “Its an unfair advantage!!!” “No way this guys going to play with that!” “Cheater”

So im not a huge fan of the xbox 360 pad but i wanted to participate so i (at the last moment) agreed to enter to the tournament using an xbox 360 pad…

The controllers were really bad ones, i couldnt do teleports with dormammu but i thought that it was “fair” because everybody was using the same controller… right?

In the end i went undefeated the whole tournament, to be fair the other guys were not that good and i was still having trouble adapting my gameplay to a controller so it was clear that anybody with a clear gameplan and a decent execution would defeat me…

But hey after i won my last match, i had to wait for over an hour to fight, without being able to play some matches (just to stay in the rithm…)before the grand finals…

and after 2 hours we finally had the grand finals, me vs a guy who was using zero, taskmaster and akuma.

The guy was nothing special, the problem was the pad, i was using a shitty xbox360 pad (the second player on that screen) and for some reason the other cotroller was a brand new one (the one the guy had). On top of that everybody was cheering for him…

In the end i lost to him, by a time out, in a match were i dropped half my combos to input problems (the triggers are not that assist friendly) and execution Problems with the pad (no teleports for me and no wave dash nor quick cancels… in resume… no mobility for me…)

If anybody have some experience like this feel free to share…

I would like to know what do you guys think about the fightstick issue…

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I would have left as soon as they denied my stick. Obviously a place full of people that have no idea what they’re doing. I went to a place to play offline like last week or the week before that or something and they spent the entire time complaining about combos, spam, and other stuff. I haven’t gone back since that day.

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this 100x i wouldnt have wasted my time on moron’s who think a stick is “unfair”

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I’ve been to a tournament like that, but for smash brothers melee. My friend heard about this tournament on the radio, and heard that 1st and 2nd prize winners would get a Wii. I’m thinking, "This will be free, nothing but scrubs, easy money."
While that part was true, they had scrubby rules.

We DID have the controller rule. Typical tourneys, you bring your own controller. The one that is broken in, the one that works, the one you’re used to using. Not this tournament. They supplied the controllers. I got caught swapping their controller for mine in my first match and they caught me and threatened to ban me from the tournament if they saw me try it again.

Another rule they used was set stages. In a typical smash brothers tournament, the 2 players pick one stage each that they can ban, and the loser gets to counter pick a stage to play on; characters have stages that benefit them, and stages that can put them at a disadvantage. So you can see the importance of being able to counter pick a certain stage if you lose. Not this tournament. They chose what stage we would play on. Each match in the bracket would be played on a different stage.

I know how you feel with bogus rules, and I’d be hella mad if I had a bunch of people telling me I couldn’t use my own controller. For the record though, I did manage to get 2nd place so I got the voucher for the Wii.

EDIT: Saw that this was for MVC3. I hope you guys still get a kick out of my post even if it isn’t for MVC3 though.

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I totally get you… the controllers were bad and even with that handycap i got second place… that made me feel awkward, because well, i got second place, some money and some free stuff, but i knew i could have won easily if i had player with my stick… its a huge difference and it does the same thing any pad would do… its not like it has an “automatic win” button integrated…

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Lol yeah, you reminded me of another story about shitty controllers!
I use the SF4 fighter pad for SF4 and MVC3 because I never got into using a stick. But my bro and I went to an E.B. Games tournament for SF4. Everyone had to use a standard Xbox controller which BLOWS ASS. I lost to some gief player who I feel I could have beat if I was using my fighter pad. It was probably even worse for my bro who does use his own custom stick. He managed to get 1st place, though.
And for kicks, the guy he was playing against in the finals was one of those “I’m the best, I beat my friends all the time” scrubs. At first my bro was getting hit by the dumbest stuff, but he brought it back and got the guy trapped in the corner and started just C.Fiercing him every time he tried to jump out of the corner. The guy started raging right there on the spot about how cheap he was and how all he was doing was one move. I started poking the fire and started cheering and telling my bro to beat that scrub. lol

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I would say it’s not an issue at all. There are very good pad players out there, they are just using the “arcade stick is cheap” argument because they want a reason as to why they lost in the first place. Honestly for them to force you to use a pad is an unfair advantage for the other people because you don’t use one. I would say any tournament that bans arcade sticks really isn’t worth your time.

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Thank you…

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That is the most absurd “rule” I have ever heard of. You should be able to use the controller that you are most comfortable with (barring macros/turbos).

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And this is why I only ever enter tourneys advertised on sites like SRK.

When I played Halo 1/2 I had to put up with ridiculous rules like not starting with Battle Rifle in Halo 2 and horrible maps.
When I played Melee I had to put up with terrible Tournament Organizers who would allow things like Buy Ins.

Every NJHalo/KOTC tourney I entered was fucking awful. They allow buy backs which are the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. The only reason they do it is to make more money, they don’t care about the actual tourney. They say they don’t allow coaching but I’ve seen their own staff coach. The last two tourneys I’ve been to it took over an hour to get my money and they kept trying not to pay me.

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Where was this “tournament” located? Not a town I’d travel to with shit rules like that.

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You should have fought them more on their “reasoning” behind banning arcade stick. Then if they didnt let you use yours you should have laughed in their face and walked out.

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You should have walked out the moment you couldn’t use your stick. You shouldn’t be barred from using a controller your comfortable playing with.

My first tournament experience was a lot similar to yours but without the dumb arcade stick ban and crap players. I ended up placing 4th in that tournament.

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If you live in an area without a real in person scene then you are kind of at the mercy of local organizer. I know for me its a 5 hours drive to the nearest tournie of any video game. That being said they hold the occasional University based tournie for Smash or SSF4 (1 to 2 a year). That being said they have piss poor rules generally like, all items set on high for Brawl or wii motes only etc.

If you are stuck someplace shitty for gaming like this you kind of just have to deal with it. Generally if you are remotely good at the game you can mop up these kind of tournies, or at least thats how it seemed around here. People that say let me use stick or walk out probably don’t know what its like to only have 1 reasonable drive distance tournie a year etc. Its hard to pass up on any kind of gaming tournie if you live in the video game deserts of the US.

Realize most of the people running this are not at all serious and just having a get togeather for fun. This should be the same kind of mentality you should adopt if you end up somewhere likes this, have fun with it raging is pointless.

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That part where he asked the participants and they were all like… ‘NO IT’S UNFAIR QQ’ is the most ridiculous part I think. I’m sorry there weren’t some experienced tournament players to sort that shit out. (Not that I am one, but hell I would’ve definitely stuck up for you. I probably would’ve asked if anyone has actual seen or been to a ‘real’ tournament).

In fact, that’s what you should do. Link the organizers to some videos of professional tournaments, operating at the maximum capacity for ‘fairness’ because the money at stake is so much greater. Show them that there are standards in place for that sort of a thing. Maybe they’ll figure it out. Maybe not.

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Should’ve left that scrub tourney as soon as they banned arcade stick. That is the STUPIDEST thing I’ve ever heard. But then again, I entered an Armored Core tourney once where the grand finals was only like 20 dollars worth of free stuff in 1v1’s and the big cash prize was during the FFA where everyone targeted me first because I was the winner of the singles (I almost won anyway but I lost because I ran out of ammo -.- ) … I found out about the prize distribution nonsense AFTER I won the singles and paid my entry fee X_X.

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i can just imagine the scene when the organisers asked everyone if they thought fightsticks were fair or not. Tournament organisers like that dont actually WANT any good players to show up, they should put a note on the flyer or something “people who are good at the game need not apply”

also i dont get how they figure that a stick is an unfair advantage either, its more the other way round in that using a pad is like a handicap (provided you arent a pad player in the first place, which sounds like all the other players were)

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You guys have to use super cheat arcade turbo cheater sticks to win? lolol what a bunch of losers, if you were any good you would be able to play on any controller like (ur buttgod) daigo

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Well at these things, bring a friend who also has another stick.
Offer to allow the scrubs to use your sticks if they want. - evened playing field, right?
If they still deny, ask for your fight money back - seriously not worth your time (where time = fight money).

OP should look in SRK regional forums for matchmaking for more good times and less rage.

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I almost had the same situation. Everyone else in the tourney was complaining about my stick and eventually the TO said it was ok. I somehow convinced him it wasn’t an advantage and that it would actually be a disadvantage to force me to use a pad.