Dormammu's BAD Matchups let me know what u guys think - Fchamp

[CosmicSpiral]

im gonna have to say that dante, zero, vergil, spencer, wesker, nova, are dorms worst match ups. wesker and nova have been covered pretth well.

zero is quite possibly dorms worst match up. the buster destroys most of dorms options to include the flame carpet. zero can proceed to rush down and dorm is almost completely assist reliant at this point. if dorm can get a stocking flare out he can win the match, untilvthen zerobhas the upper hand.

dante air play to forward air dash plus the insane range on his normals shut dorm down. that and teleport can stop dorm from charging spells or carpet.

im not experienced with playing viper or good vipers…

Zero is not a terrible matchup unless you try to pretend you’re playing against someone else than Zero. The same goes for Nova. The Vergil matchup is up for debate; Padtrick actually thinks it’s 6-4 Dorm when both have the same access to meter, while I think it’s the opposite. You would be hard pressed to prove that Spencer and Wesker are not bad.

AIr Play + ADF is completely irrelevant to Dorm. He has so many ways to not care about Air Play. Dante’s teleport is unsafe unless covered by an assist.

lol are you really taking a statement from padtrick as some sort of concrete fact or evidence.

I think he’s wrong. But it’s pretty funny how everyone who plays FChamp has a higher opinion of the character than Champ himself. It’s like Chris G and Morrigan except reversed.

[Bill]

im gonna have to say that dante, zero, vergil, spencer, wesker, nova, are dorms worst match ups. wesker and nova have been covered pretth well.

zero is quite possibly dorms worst match up. the buster destroys most of dorms options to include the flame carpet. zero can proceed to rush down and dorm is almost completely assist reliant at this point. if dorm can get a stocking flare out he can win the match, untilvthen zerobhas the upper hand.

dante air play to forward air dash plus the insane range on his normals shut dorm down. that and teleport can stop dorm from charging spells or carpet.

im not experienced with playing viper or good vipers…

Zero is not a terrible matchup unless you try to pretend you’re playing against someone else than Zero. The same goes for Nova. The Vergil matchup is up for debate; Padtrick actually thinks it’s 6-4 Dorm when both have the same access to meter, while I think it’s the opposite. You would be hard pressed to prove that Spencer and Wesker are not bad.

AIr Play + ADF is completely irrelevant to Dorm. He has so many ways to not care about Air Play. Dante’s teleport is unsafe unless covered by an assist.

lol are you really taking a statement from padtrick as some sort of concrete fact or evidence.

I think he’s wrong. But it’s pretty funny how everyone who plays FChamp has a higher opinion of the character than Champ himself. It’s like Chris G and Morrigan.

Cosmic, I’m starting to realize how much Jam Session helps Dorm against the top tier cast/bad matchups. Do you have detailed write up on how to use it with Dorm? I hate Dante with a passion but I like Dorm so much that I’m willing to use him if it makes Dorm viable against the top tiers.

[CosmicSpiral]

im gonna have to say that dante, zero, vergil, spencer, wesker, nova, are dorms worst match ups. wesker and nova have been covered pretth well.

zero is quite possibly dorms worst match up. the buster destroys most of dorms options to include the flame carpet. zero can proceed to rush down and dorm is almost completely assist reliant at this point. if dorm can get a stocking flare out he can win the match, untilvthen zerobhas the upper hand.

dante air play to forward air dash plus the insane range on his normals shut dorm down. that and teleport can stop dorm from charging spells or carpet.

im not experienced with playing viper or good vipers…

Zero is not a terrible matchup unless you try to pretend you’re playing against someone else than Zero. The same goes for Nova. The Vergil matchup is up for debate; Padtrick actually thinks it’s 6-4 Dorm when both have the same access to meter, while I think it’s the opposite. You would be hard pressed to prove that Spencer and Wesker are not bad.

AIr Play + ADF is completely irrelevant to Dorm. He has so many ways to not care about Air Play. Dante’s teleport is unsafe unless covered by an assist.

lol are you really taking a statement from padtrick as some sort of concrete fact or evidence.

I think he’s wrong. But it’s pretty funny how everyone who plays FChamp has a higher opinion of the character than Champ himself. It’s like Chris G and Morrigan.

Cosmic, I’m starting to realize how much Jam Session helps Dorm against the top tier cast/bad matchups. Do you have detailed write up on how to use it with Dorm? I hate Dante with a passion but I like Dorm so much that I’m willing to use him if it makes Dorm viable against the top tiers.

I don’t remember ever writing one. I’ll type up a summary and send it to you.

[Bill]

im gonna have to say that dante, zero, vergil, spencer, wesker, nova, are dorms worst match ups. wesker and nova have been covered pretth well.

zero is quite possibly dorms worst match up. the buster destroys most of dorms options to include the flame carpet. zero can proceed to rush down and dorm is almost completely assist reliant at this point. if dorm can get a stocking flare out he can win the match, untilvthen zerobhas the upper hand.

dante air play to forward air dash plus the insane range on his normals shut dorm down. that and teleport can stop dorm from charging spells or carpet.

im not experienced with playing viper or good vipers…

Zero is not a terrible matchup unless you try to pretend you’re playing against someone else than Zero. The same goes for Nova. The Vergil matchup is up for debate; Padtrick actually thinks it’s 6-4 Dorm when both have the same access to meter, while I think it’s the opposite. You would be hard pressed to prove that Spencer and Wesker are not bad.

AIr Play + ADF is completely irrelevant to Dorm. He has so many ways to not care about Air Play. Dante’s teleport is unsafe unless covered by an assist.

lol are you really taking a statement from padtrick as some sort of concrete fact or evidence.

I think he’s wrong. But it’s pretty funny how everyone who plays FChamp has a higher opinion of the character than Champ himself. It’s like Chris G and Morrigan.

Cosmic, I’m starting to realize how much Jam Session helps Dorm against the top tier cast/bad matchups. Do you have detailed write up on how to use it with Dorm? I hate Dante with a passion but I like Dorm so much that I’m willing to use him if it makes Dorm viable against the top tiers.

I don’t remember ever writing one. I’ll type up a summary and send it to you.

Thanks!

[Aoishi2AL]

im gonna have to say that dante, zero, vergil, spencer, wesker, nova, are dorms worst match ups. wesker and nova have been covered pretth well.

zero is quite possibly dorms worst match up. the buster destroys most of dorms options to include the flame carpet. zero can proceed to rush down and dorm is almost completely assist reliant at this point. if dorm can get a stocking flare out he can win the match, untilvthen zerobhas the upper hand.

dante air play to forward air dash plus the insane range on his normals shut dorm down. that and teleport can stop dorm from charging spells or carpet.

im not experienced with playing viper or good vipers…

Zero is not a terrible matchup unless you try to pretend you’re playing against someone else than Zero. The same goes for Nova. The Vergil matchup is up for debate; Padtrick actually thinks it’s 6-4 Dorm when both have the same access to meter, while I think it’s the opposite. You would be hard pressed to prove that Spencer and Wesker are not bad.

AIr Play + ADF is completely irrelevant to Dorm. He has so many ways to not care about Air Play. Dante’s teleport is unsafe unless covered by an assist.

[quote=“CosmicSpiral, post:59, topic:158903”]

im gonna have to say that dante, zero, vergil, spencer, wesker, nova, are dorms worst match ups. wesker and nova have been covered pretth well.

zero is quite possibly dorms worst match up. the buster destroys most of dorms options to include the flame carpet. zero can proceed to rush down and dorm is almost completely assist reliant at this point. if dorm can get a stocking flare out he can win the match, untilvthen zerobhas the upper hand.

dante air play to forward air dash plus the insane range on his normals shut dorm down. that and teleport can stop dorm from charging spells or carpet.

im not experienced with playing viper or good vipers…

Zero is not a terrible matchup unless you try to pretend you’re playing against someone else than Zero. The same goes for Nova. The Vergil matchup is up for debate; Padtrick actually thinks it’s 6-4 Dorm when both have the same access to meter, while I think it’s the opposite. You would be hard pressed to prove that Spencer and Wesker are not bad.
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Air play in mid range vs. dorm shuts him down. combined with dantes long range normals he has an advantage against dorm. dante can teleport in reaction to most of dorms long range attacks save for his forward h and dk hole and chaotic falme.

zero and buster allow him to control the flow of the match. zero starts losing if he dtays in the air too long but a good zero will just rtsd. dorm can win. byt the match is nit in his favor.

what does everyone think about the strange match? i think form has to rush down or he loses muserably

[Aoishi2AL]

form equals dorm last sentence

[CosmicSpiral]

Half-screen Air Play is laughable. Every medium and heavy attack nullifies it. You can catch him with Mass Change M during the startup or triangle jump backwards to avoid it altogether. It trades badly with Purification as well. Dante has one teleport angle and you can grab him out of the startup of j.H. All his normals are slower than Dorm’s.

Zero can’t RTSD. His forward dash is trash and every command dash is unsafe. Dorm is one of the few characters that can beat level 3 buster without using a special move or meter. Zero wins the matchup due to angles but it is not terrible for Dorm as long as you keep moving.

Dorm vs Strange is 5v5. You can’t win at mid-range though.

[VASaga]

For the last time, Dorm vs Strange is not 5-5, Its like 7-3 Strange

Fishhook loses to Stranges AA’s.
Tridash L’s lose to st.h - mystic sword L

The only thing Dorm gets to do is SJ go into flight then try to alter his attack trajectory so Strange miscalculates an AA

[Guiver]

What’s the best way to deal with Nova/Frank Nonsense? The problem I have is finding sage windows to gain charges, but I find it difficult when nova is calling assists, throwing javelins with a shield up, and then getting in with cr. B or a box jump C. Going to the air doesn’t really seem like a great option either, because all novap layers want to spam C and he has the most lenient windows to follow up after throws ANYWHERE.