Ok, I’m not sure if this is a safe-jump, but it’s been working pretty well for me.
Back Throw -> Forward Dash -> Walk forward -> j.mk xx etc
Most likely a hitbox safe jump, not a standard one.
Omg this thread is amazing, I love you guys.
We love you back =)
BTW, I’ll reformat this thread very soon to transform it into character-specific stuff. I’d need to get some spare time first, and it’s actually pretty difficult right now.
Don’t worry, this thread will be ULTIMATE very soon 
Ahem…
So… Did a moderator merge two threads without saying? Wow.
Mingo, may you merge your and my first posts? O_o
Hmm well I told the mod to unsticky my thread, combine it with yours, and then sticky your thread, so that you end up being the original poster. But it looks like he failed and simply merged your thread with mine… he didn’t even merged them properly. All of your information are on like page 3.
The mod I talked to was Nasir (blame him lol) and I guess I’ll message him again.
Haha nice one, just tell me if you want me to PM him as well and put him into PM vortex pressure.
Go ahead.
For the record, I’m not trying to steal your thread and I don’t want to take any responsibility for keeping it up to date.
SF4 mods seem to be nonexistent and I pmed Nasir like 3 days and still nothing has happened yet.
Same for me, let’s wait.
Let’s go for an actual vortex matter. I played against a very good Seth today who told me he discovered something in v2012: Seth EX hyakublahblah (the kick) actually beats any of your kunais. He told me it always autocorrects, whatever side we land. I tried many different setups against him, all of them were getting pwned by this move.
Of course it’s very easy to safe jump, looks like we should use less kunais against Seth. I’ll take more time in training room whenever I get time (ie. not this week-end) to try to find some setups beating Seth’s EX kicks.
Try doing the same thing you would do if you wanted to vortex Blanka who always does EX up ball: go for noncrossup kunai vortex but still land on the other side.
You’re right.
Non crossup kunai & land on the other side makes his EX kicks whiff. Some setups like MK Tsumuji - LK command dash - j.kunai work as a charm.
Anyway I think I’ll reduce my kunai use in this matchup. Got a chance to chat with F-Word today, he told me that Problem X is very used to this kind of kunais. I think if I happen to face him tomorrow (which means I should have beaten ChaozTheory ololz ) I think I’ll go for kunai trolling and mix with safe jumps when he’s used to see crossup kunais and starts punishing with EX kicks ^^
I prefer just safe-jumping the shit out of Deejay, partially due to the fact that I don’t like going for kunai vortex when safe jumps are much more reliable. He’s forced to block high, so he loses his best reversal, and you can mix him up all day long.
Just spam unblockalols; no need to kunai.
Wrong reply? Seth != DeeJay
Hello, im kinda new to Ibuki but not to SF4.
I was messing around ibuki and I found that after Neckbreaker you can whiff st.LP and super jump kunai vs Deejay and all his reversals will either whiff or get beaten, EX dreadkicks gets him out but if you see him I “think” you can EX neckbreaker him, not sure, and in the corner after LP raida you can backdash super jump j.MK and its a safe jump vs him as well. But it doesnt work vs other characters because he wakes up slower than the rest.
Sorry if it was known.
The problem isn’t getting hit by his Up kicks. It’s being able to punish them. Outside of a perfect read with kunai vortex followed by U2 as soon as you land, there’s no way you can punish his LK Up kicks as it recovers too fast and he goes too far.
Raida (corner) , backdash , sj.MK does not seem to work against DeeJay. At least not against his EX up kicks. Are you sure it works?
Is there any unblockable I’ve missed against Seth, aside from EX neckbreaker one?
You should do EX neckbreaker anyways for maximum stun. 2 combos and he’s stunned = dead.
Roger that =)
my bad, it was raida walk back then j.MK.
so what its best to do vs Deejay? just meaty cr.MKs or safe jumps?