Sorry I haven’t been able to make it you guys. I’m currently looking for a second job and trying to pick up the pieces. Everything cool here with the 3s? Can anyone here recommend a good place to look for a second job? I know it’s hard but any help would be useful.
Sup Dander i would recommend UPS or Fed ex as they prolly need help over the holidays if ur looking for some chill shit i’d say ur local mall?
Sell oranges and tube socks on a freeway exit.
I’ve always loved the fighting game scene, well mainly for the Capcom games. Even though I don’t and have never played Marvel, I’ve always felt it was a great community. As a player, however, I’m Street Fighter especially for ST and 3S but mainly 3S. My concern is that in America, I believe that Marvel is killing the SF scene. When SF4 came out the community was about SF4, when MVC3 came out it seemed like a large number of gamers dropped SF4 and it really never recovered. And with UMVC3 coming out the numbers will continue to not improve. And it’s funny since both games have Ryu.
My theory is that the attitude in America is that for SF4, a lot of players believe that they’ll never be as good as the Japanese so they’ll just stick with Marvel since Marvel is America’s game. Since it’s bad for SF4 it’s gonna be even worse for the other SF’s like 3S. I’m learning from people throughout the community that a majority of players are giving up on 3S which is a shame since 3S is one of the greatest games if not the greatest. When I was in line to pick up UMVC3 the other day a lot of people told me that 3S is the best SF but they don’t play it because it’s too hard. Maybe gone are the days when people appreciate technical fighting games. These days a game has to be playable once you take it out the box. I don’t want Street Fighter to die but I think it will always be under the shadow of Marvel. If I had my way I would make a requirement that if you wanted to play at my place you had to be average in 3S lol.
One game I admire a lot is Virtua Fighter. Love how it’s very technical and only the Japanese can play it. Love how the bar is so high in that game. If I ever own an arcade I would put the latest Virtua Fighter in it. Even though it wouldn’t make money probably it would be there for anyone who is worthy to play it. The game is a symbol of high standards when it comes to fighting games. You really never hear anyone say bad things about it
Maybe I should put in my copy of Virtua Fighter 5 and start a scene.
People want everything on a silver platter.
Whatever happened to just learning a game? Man up I say.
That theory isnt a good one imo. People like MvC because that shit is colorful as hell and people recognize Marvel. Accessible yes, but even so MvC2 was a pretty technical game in its own right. If anything, I was put off by the game because it sounded like a difficult game, lots of button pressing 
Thank you everyone for showing up on Friday night and making it an event. We had 15 people show up. Some old faces returning and new faces as well.
Thank you Lavell, John, Julius, Karafail, Minh, resres, Galzpanic, ALAX, Lee (Happy Birthday again), Upa, John, Strider, Erosentinel, Secret Character, and Kent.
Thank you all and hopefully I will see you next week.
I wanna go against the grain and get a Virtua Fighter 5 scene going on lol.
If you’re serious about that, I will friggin’ play out VF5 every night. Every. Friggin’. Night. I would take this game so seriously – you have NO clue. VF has always been a great game. The only crappy part is that it has no scene, a pretty unimaginative cast, and God awful announcers. DOESN’T MATTER! VF IS GODLIKE! D8
I’ll give you the details in a pm so you know what’s up. Thanks! 
We’ll see but I only have a copy of VF5 for xbox and right now if we need to play it, it has to be PS3 since ALAX brings in an extra PS3 setup. Lol: Because right now I just sold out to UMVC3 and bought another copy for Xbox.
So now people since UMVC3 is hot sauce right now I will now have 3 UMVC3 setups and 1 SSF4 AE setup. The MVC to SF ratio is always 3:1. It’s the same in the smokeshop where MVC2 outperforms 3S three times over. I also bought another UMVC3 because I saw last week a lot of ppl waiting for UMVC3 while an SSF4 AE setup was empty.
So yes I hate to say it but UMVC3 is dominating right now.
More like 10x. I feel like I’m the only one that puts quarters in that machine.
It’s a Marvel world we live in. It’s been like that since Xmen Vs Street Fighter. Arcadewise the last time Street Fighter was the most popular fighting game was Hyper Fighting. Ya SF4 made SF popular again but with Marvel returning Marvel will always be the frontrunner. For many reasons it’s a game that appeals to American sensibilities. It attracts the masses here in America much easier.
I myself wish the world played 3S more. I’m kinda dissapointed with the 3S turn out. I thought that when 3SO came out there would be newer players showing up for 3S. I thought that the SF4 players were gonna get into it but it never materialized. I use to think that for new players SF4 would be the gateway to 3S but it’s not true. And converting Marvel players to 3S will never happen since they both live in different dimensions.
I get how SF4 has a lot of the basic bits for playing a SF game, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s a way to get into 3s. You played me in SF4. I’m ass. You’ve played me in 3s. I’m like a different kind of player in that game. I “can” put in more work in SF4, but SF4 rewards you in completely different ways. I would think that a SF4 player’s impressions jumping into 3s is that it’s “faster, but way more scrubby” since parry, meaties, hit-confirms, bnb’s, button input windows, and even hit-stun all function faster with less tact needed when you first touch the game (minus 3s’ polyrhythmic combo system). That said, the mentality is just too different. =P
Rant below. Don’t bother reading it unless you like hearing me bitch.
Actually, the more I think about it, outside of understanding situations in a fighting game, the new ones really aren’t going out of their way to make you adapt mid-fight like the older ones made you do. Cross-ups should be a viable tactic in SF, but why do they generate 50% damage combos because of one failed guess? Why can you option select your grabs ON ACCIDENT in Marvel 3, and why is jump H or jump S the only viable attacks Tron has for “safely” getting in? Y u no have instant win Gem in SFxT yet Capcom – i r waiting to bitch about it on the interwebs ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)?!
Fighting games aren’t about upping your game anymore. They’re about getting to the point because you deserve the win because your character/team is awesome and considered high tier because of tourney players who can dick around with any character in the game and make them look absolutely broken (She-Hulk in Vanilla Marvel for J Wong and Combofiend, for example). I respect the marvel/sf community – I really do. My only issues are that the games themselves aren’t designed to hold a dedicated audience of players like the older ones did; they’re meant to entertain. People say that SF4 is “okay”, yet everyone played it out like it was the 2nd coming of Jesus since they had nothing better to play at the time. People say that MvC3 was “okay”. It’s fun, definitely, but look at vanilla’s meta game: pick Tron assist, Hagger assist, Wolvervine [+ Akuma], Phoenix, or lose. There was some experimentation with the game, for sure, but the motivation necessary to push that boat to shore was moot thanks to the easy damage and bnbs. Gimmicks and redundant, all-in-one solutions do not make a game, son. : |
I’m not saying games need to be as hard as 3s to learn just to be decent, or friggin’ Vampire Savior where blockstrings are insanely fast, and rounds don’t reset health. What I’m saying is that the games in this genre can last for so~~~ long when they’re intentionally designed to be tricky to completely master, as like any other game ever created with a passive core gameplay component. This, in turn, generates happier players and longer life spans for the games. Fighting games boil down to educated reads on someone and knowing your options to stand a chance. When you cut that process in half by inserting easy mode solutions to otherwise valid situations in a fighting game (like dealing with mix-ups), suddenly, the game in question is expected to have a much higher roof for mastery, when in reality it’s lost that due to the higher number of tools available to remove educated guesses and possible mistakes on your part that don’t reward breaking down your opponents habits (wanna long reversal window with that srk, sir? auto-block gem? crouch-tech? invincibility on every other move? option selecting wins games in SF4? lolwut?). At least you can punish parries, focus attacks, and push blocking 8 ways to Sunday; systems that were originally MEANT to be that “tilt”, per se, in skill to both ease difficulty and do things outside of the rules.
I don’t care if it seems like new players want better ways to win. That’s a given. They just want to know how to actually play to win like everyone else, which isn’t something Capcom identifies (more so Ono). Capcom wants to make everyone a winner in a genre that’s incredibly dependent on the knowledge of the individual player, which cannot be achieved unless the player has situational awareness – the true factor to why something like Grant’s seemingly random raw karakusa can grab me at the very beginning of a fight after I dash forward (I always try to punish his neutral jump with dash-to-srk). SF4 made people care for SF again – commendable, but what are those +3.1 million buyers doing now? It brought in a new generation of players, along with that shitty generation X attitude of spontaneous gratification, but at the cost of going 5 steps backwards and not fixing what was broken from years prior in fighting games (why isn’t HDR’s custom button config standard)? What?!
It’s not Capcom’s ventures with Marvel 3, SF4, and SFxT that bother me. It’s not even the “1% mentality” (us) who bitch about CvS2 needing a sequel (which it does), and think games should be life commitments that has me all wrapped up in thoughts. Marvel 3 beats out SF4 despite the lack of execution requirements and more fan favorites? Fine. The real issue? It’s the idiotic “my first fighting game” mentality with the side of dysfunctional “CATER TO WEST” Japanese game design ideology that utterly makes me QQ a friggin’ river of tears, because despite all of the money and fan support in the world, Capcom still can’t get two things right without having three things be completely off the mark. No excuses. They have the most loyal, insightful community of players (fighting game wise) in gaming – use them, and understand the premise of their bitching. Sit with people in the community from the beginning of development to the end. Understand why pros think Yun is a threat and why characters like Ibuki in 3s aren’t viable in the meta game. Actually talk to people who AREN’T pros and understand why they struggle – don’t second guess what they need, and balance to the lowest denominator, FFS. Halo players don’t get up in arms behind 2 frames being off, k? We do, which says A LOT about how deep the player is required to go in a fighting game.
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Great rant. I enjoyed it. You covered a lot.
Basically IMO it’s all about money and culture. I like how you say Capcom caters to the west because it does. Most of their revenue comes from America so it’s only smart they make games for the west. I think Capcom had no idea how influencial the Marvel Versus series was gonna be. They thought they were just making a fun kids game and no idea that players in the US would actually take seriously but low and behold it’s America’s fighting game.
Also Japan has an arcade culture so their hard learning curve games were made for replay value so it could get more quarters. Marvel is for console meaning you can only buy it once so it has to be easy to learn so little Johnny won’t have a hard time and put in Call of Duty.
My role here is to create an environment where people play fighting games seriously. Well Capcom fighting games anyway. My hope was to get more people to play a difficult fighting game like 3S but these days it’s asking too much. What I meant by SF4 being gateway since it got ppl playing SF again in general. I was hoping to take that and convert it into 3S players. What really happened is that SF4 got people to play MVC3. Right now I’m trying to live in the present and the past. A Marvel dominated console room and an old school arcade room.
Only a hyper technical complex fighting game scene like Virtua Fighter 5 can exist in Japan because it was made for their esoteric arcade culture.
Thx Don-
Hmmmmmmmmm. Show up for the party of Ultimate and show off my god like Iron Fist, or not to show up.
I will be there today Don. Me need more work with my nemesis and nova
We shall have a gathering tonight. Everyone and anyone is invited. The more the merrier. I’ll be going around to collect the E fee so please have it ready when I ask for it. Anyone new please text me at 310 344 9367.
I’m gonna have three UMVC3 setups tonight. Two xbox one PS3. So all you Marvel fiends please show up and join the fun.
Thank you everyone for showing up this Friday night. We had ten people. Thank you ALAX, Mr. 12, Lee, Kent, Another Don, Karafail, John, Strider, Joe, and Celso.
Thank you everyone. I had a lot fun. A frustrating time in SSF4 AE getting bodied by Lee’s T. Hawk. And a liberating time in 3S battling it out with Karafail and Mr. 12. Third Strike is so fun. AE…I don’t know how to play that game lol. I guess 3S is really the only game I care about now even more so than ST. It’s probably the only video game that I’ll ever have fun with for the rest of my life. I don’t understand the newer video games.
Well I have to say that UMVC3 competition is pretty anemic for it being a new game. Where are all the Marvel players? I know some of them are going through some tough times right now. But for the rest of y’alls I have three UMVC3 setups for you guys and they need to be used. So please take advantage of this place because it’s not gonna be here forever. We’re coming to the end of the year and I have no idea what’s gonna happen after the new year. So come on, right now I’ve made this a haven for UMVC3 players and I hope you guys take advantage of it.
Oh ALAX I owe you a coke. You paid me and forgot to get it.
I’m not gonna lie: I like UMVC3. Rocket Raccoon is so sick. Him and Firebrand both just clicked with me so well the moment I touched the game.
I wasn’t so sure how my Dejin Ryu was going to hold up on Friday, but I’m pretty happy with how he held up. I’ve only really put in time for him, Chun, and Urien lately. =P
I got KOFXIII for PS3.
So now you have four wonderful set ups of 2 UMVC3, KOFXIII, and SSF4 AE in one room and all the old school games in the other room.
Hope to see you this coming Friday.
Happy Thanksgiving y’all.
KOF is finally cool in North America, again. I have a feeling I’ll be playing it all of next Friday-wait~~~…maybe half of next Friday. I have a surprise for everyone in 3s!
…then afterwards I’ll play nothing but KOF13.