Does What a Spider Can! UMvC3 Spidey Combo Thread

xero15 · September 21, 2012, 1:34pm

That’s because hitstun is maxed by then

Raoh · September 21, 2012, 3:39pm

Haha, I know that. What I meant was that I’m not sure which other combos work well with the fake TAC aside from those which flip. I think there are other means.

xero15 · September 21, 2012, 5:44pm

I mean that late in any Spidey combo a j :l: should tech

I blame it on Airborne… shrug

Raoh · September 21, 2012, 5:56pm

True. It isn’t enough though that they flip from they sj:l:. The HSD should just be enough for a consistent* meaty sj:h: to hit all tech directions for the reset.

You can always time inputs for a meaty reset with whatever combo. However, with how marvel is played (pressing buttons), a slight miss time may result in losing your character.

xero15 · September 21, 2012, 8:07pm

It’s not that bad. j:h: lingers for a while. I would probably say its slightly harder for you with your reset but it shouldn’t be that much different in timing.

I blame it on Airborne… shrug

The_Real_Sophos · September 21, 2012, 10:40pm

How do I OTG?

Whenever I do S+H zip they always pop out…

Layo · September 21, 2012, 11:38pm

you have to press S or H when the zip otg the opponent,it s take a while to take the timing but train it more and more good luck

The_Real_Sophos · September 22, 2012, 3:35am

I still can’t hit it, it is making me rage. lol

Raoh · September 22, 2012, 4:21am

Quoting myself again.

Must have explained this a number of times already not to mention others. It’s posted on the combo thread iirc.

Anyway, the j:h: after and OTG zip only works after a few hits into a combo (raw web throw, or normal ground series to web throw or air grab), other than that j:s: is used as it comes out a frame faster. To practice j:h: get the training dummy to do raw jumps then perform an air grab. You can then time your zip OTG to j:h: after. To time the zip OTG to either :h: or :s: what you can do is to look at the zip projectile and press an input as soon as it hits your opponent’s knees or legs to get the pick up; this gives Spidey the momentum he needs for continuing the combo. If you do it late or early, you will drop the combo. When you get used to hitting the opponent, you have to practice to scoop them with a s:m: to either c:h: or s:h: as soon as you hit the ground for more hits.

It’s all about practice, timing and getting used to. Hit me up if you’re still having problems.

The_Real_Sophos · September 22, 2012, 4:48am

tyvm

i will keep trying later on, right now i call drones and OTG them then web-throw and super lol

xero15 · September 22, 2012, 10:48am

I’ll add your quote to the front page later today

I blame it on Airborne… shrug

Raoh · September 22, 2012, 1:49pm

All good!

Layo · September 22, 2012, 7:38pm

lol sry raoh I understand all of what you re saying about the otg but I can t explain like that in english cause this not my first language :(.
now i can do dead combo with spydey and vergil in match.For me the most important for spydey is to master web zip wiff and dash under and i master both of them

The_Real_Sophos · September 23, 2012, 3:08am

Okay, I have spent at least 7 hours in the lab and I still can’t OTG. (but hey my movement and web swing combos are getting decent! hahaha)

I don’t get it, does the zip need to hit a special part of the body? Is the timing extremely extremely extremely strict and I am just missing it?

When I zip to OTG I then hold up and mash H or S and am getting nothing, do I have to press up at an exact time or something?

Raoh · September 23, 2012, 3:22am

You should watch some videos to get how it’s done. Sig link!

The j:h: or j:s: after the zip OTG doesn’t mean that you jump after the web zip OTG hits. It just means that since the zip OTG is an air move, you’d be pressing either :h: or :s: while zipping down from a jump which is why there is a jump caption in the combo notation. Not sure if that’s what you mean though.

The_Real_Sophos · September 23, 2012, 3:27am

Will do.

and you clarified it very well for me. I was thinking you had to zip, land, j.H/S. I didn’t know that the H or S during zip counted as the j.h or j.s.

I am really enjoying Spider-Man and Jill’s arrow assist allows for easy web throws from the wall bounce when people get caught.

EDIT: from your videos, it looks like I may be to high up when I try to otg?

DeskLampTV · September 23, 2012, 4:40am

After the web throw, there are a few different ways to get the spacing for the OTG web zip correct. First, you can just jump up and do a full airdash, then web zip. You can also do a ground dash, jump up, do a short airdash and then OTG web zip. I use this one a lot because I think it gets me closer to the ground, and its just my personal preference. Doing a heavy web swing after the web throw and web zip cancelling the web swing once you are near enough to the opponents body works too. I haven’t actually done it this way before, but I have seen it so it works. All you really need to do to get it down consistently is to practice it over and over, and eventually you will get it. I hope I could help.

The_Real_Sophos · September 23, 2012, 6:56am

I tried it both ways and I have had the most success with a dash, jump zip. I am starting to hit the OTG now and combo off of sent drones.

xero15 · September 23, 2012, 6:59am

Out of curiosity what combo are you attempting to do and what attack are you trying to follow up with after the zip? The combo really does matter as Raoh stated but I don’t think anyone actually asked up front.

Raoh · September 23, 2012, 7:40am

Nice! I think I have video of Spidey with Sent. I’m pretty sure you’d be able to make better ones along the way now that you’re getting used to zip OTGs. GL!

Also, like DeskLamp said, it doesn’t matter which method you use do the zip OTG. What matters is you get the feel and be able to do it consistently with the method you choose.