Does Ken REALLY = 3rd Strike?

Woah calm down. That kind of debate should go towards that pretty open ended, not that deep, tumblr blurb blog style signature text as the entire regular post could just be in jest, though there’s some judging in there with words like denial.

Sex, necessary. Ken sexed his wife, no he wasn’t pained by it >> POW role reversal << Ken topic. Back to Ken thanks.

Ibuki Rival Battle with Oro, Excuse me, I have to defeat you in 5 minutes to pass my ninjitsu exam.
> What, I thought you wanted to ask me out! How disappointing!!

So lets not sound like Japan (&other countries) can with women are 2nd class citizens. Have to break some of those walls down in Japan society when so many people even outside the country want a “waifu” and don’t even know the word “wifey.”

It’s got nothing to do with her being a woman. It’s to do with her being an idiot.

Her definition of sex seems a little misandrous.

She trolled you all harder than roshihikari. oh my god you are all so butthurt

oh my god you don’t know shit about niji

C’mon, we know she isn’t that stupid. I just wish she’d post more around here(same for Deviljin, quit playing Marvel3 and post 5page essays per post again!).

So I’m gone for a week and this shit happens…

Welcome back Ale…Louis. <3

Yeah, I would not know this person, should I have asked if they have posted before and are a big elephant in the room? Who’s your god, Girls Generation? OMG someone lifted a veil of their plastic surgery / before pics.

Fuckin DevilJin, I already detailed before. Character forum! And he swung by to crap on Oro. ;[
And you didn’t answer a PM sorry about this mess either, jerkass. Or Dander, who says he’s the bess. Or anyone. Best people answer back. Real character in those dudes.

It was a joke, guys. Calm down. I generally just tease about Ibuki being the best character around because I’m an Ibuki main and bad at Ibuki. If you’re unsure of this you can look through my post history. I knew very well that the topic was about Ken being the go-to training character for 3S. That’s why I made the tease about you guys regretting using the wrong character to learn 3S with. I assumed most people knew that Ibuki wasn’t the best to learn the game with and would recognize me pushing her as a joke. Apparently I went too hard. I was wrong, sorry.

The whole “game shares a letter thing” was put in on purpose along with the pet tanuki and flying part. You may not know this, but Ibuki also can not fly (afaik) and her having a pet tanuki doesn’t make it easier to learn the game (also afaik). Everyone can also parry high, low, and even in the air. I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume Oro’s name also happens to not loop endlessly and is just Oro.

The entire post was supposed to just be a HEY I’M ALIVE post, while staying true to my general posting trends so that people who did know me could be like, “Oh hey, look, Niji is back and being Niji.” and maybe even get a chuckle. I realize I’m not famous here, but there are a few people that do recognize me I think and I did drop off the side of the planet a while ago. I felt bad leaving people I know hanging like that.

As to why I stopped posting and playing suddenly, it’s cuz I had to lay off an employee at my liqour store way back near the end of last year and start working 10 hours a day myself. I also own a fansite (though not huge) and had to manage that during the release of a new installment in the Armored Core series. Tebbo knows of this as he plays AC as well. Then about three months ago I left to visit familiy in Europe for about two months. Now I’m finally back at home working 8 hours a day and 6 days a week and finally getting time to play games I want to play like 3S. I was honestly hoping DJ was around so I could tell him that I didn’t just randomly vanish on him on purpose.

As for my geniune opinion on the topic, since some of you seem interested in it, I think Ken is a better go-to than Chun by a long shot because Chun isn’t as standardly applicable to other characters. Chun is very likely the best character, Ken is “just” very solid. That’s an important difference. The other characters don’t ALL have amazing pokes, easy cancels into supers that deal enormous damage, a variety of cancelable moves, and tiny hitboxes while crouching. Getting used to a slightly weaker character than the best is good for general practice since you don’t go into fights with other characters expecting strange things of them.

Ken isn’t exactly lacking in any field, as I’m sure we all know, but he’s not quite as ridiculously damaging as Chun and he requires a generally more aggressive approach to fighting your opponent. The approach makes a difference in learning since most characters approach the game in a more similar fashion to Ken rather than Chun. Chun can be played aggressively, sure, but this is in regards to people learning the game. Newbs, noobies, noblets, etc. Ken will make people work more for their wins, while having a more normalized hurtbox compared to the other characters, more normalized super art damage, and a more standard aggressive approach.

Yes, I know I framed this in a Ken vs Chun setting and that somewhat unfairly ignores the other characters. I just think that you should learn the game with one of the better characters of that game and you should generally try to stick to the most straight forward of the best characters to minimize excessive non-standard mechanical training. It’s great if you can do fancy Urien Aegis tricks, but that’s not easily applicable to every other character.

It may even be that Ken is better for one subset of characters to learn and Chun is better for the other. For example, I think you’d get more bang out of Chun if you play Q or Remy than you would out of Ken. I’m not a pro, though, so I could easily be wrong.

YAY WELCOME BACK NIJI! IT’S NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN!

Also, it’s called Ibupki Fighter III: 3rd Strike. Get with it hipsters.

EDIT: Thanks for the shoutouts womble.

Ibupki Fighter III: 3rd Strike

Too much lag.

Ken is good to learn 3s but in learning all the good, he’ll teach you a lot of bad universal habits like try to low forward everything. Something I’ve already said before. Reasoning for why low forward everything isn’t good to emphasize: Attacking from a distance isn’t any safer than an up close attack as they can each be parried with relative ease. But that’s what Ken’s “footsies” focuses on, getting that low forward to super. It’s also what helps player’s plateau the way they do because they lose sight of the other ways to engage.

Want to learn this game really well without making it too easy and infuriating on the rest of us that are learning with you?

I say learn Dudley, Q, Yun.

Dudley will help your Oki and physical combo speeds.

Q will teach you the parries, generally good poke distances.

Yun will teach you how to control the flow of a match.

They have unique tool sets that set them apart from each other but still allow for some branching out to other characters and pretty much cover the spectrum of Aggressive/Defensive styles.

Chun and Ken are like 3s tunnel vision. They’ll help you see what’s going on in this match and ONLY this match. Unless you already have a good background in Street Fighter and can mix and match concepts without confusing yourself.

There.

Imma go finish my homework. Might be at super arcade later tonight!

I said it before. Dudley teaches you everything. I think a big part of 3S is controlling the wakeup game and Dudley is excellent at doing that.

More - bang out - Chun. Good advice. Didn’t take mine and run with it to say Ibuki loops too then, IbukibukibukI no confirm buki buki buki on block Kunai Rain. Don’t learn the girls, they’re weird. Learn Ken, he looks like a girl Ryu, sorry Sakura. [details=Spoiler]No need for return volley, and seemingly everything getting a reply, with more “mean grrls” open judgemental weirdness “you don’t seem to know - only I know” okay lady -

I seem to be one of few Ibuki learners around still & detailed how I do so in Akuma character forum.

Also usually use too many words, now using less here considering that text bomb had fluff, so much fluff. :wonder: Limits reached, make up for too much by saying less, regardless of cryptic and missing tenses and conjunctions to make readable sentences for all.
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Pictures of Oro movement > werds, come at me.

I wanted to have a new topic on corner control, who does that the best, as Dudley is the boss of that. Who else works well there: Yang tough even with no meter, Yun with meter, Chun deadly, Necro blagggnastorrrrm & more. The problem said with Dudley is learning that hop style jump in for combo is such “a go to” for damage move, he can fish for it nonstop and avoid footsies, even though he has some nice pokes and ground control. And with safe HK fast as shit standing, crouching launcher one safe on block and from reversals at the perfect range, Dudley can get complacent with very easy corner pushes in those to Ducking Combos or right into EX Machine Gun blow. And such Dudley players may not even know who Vic Vance is*. Fujiwara. etc. Kokujin gets beat up a lot in Videos, from such being usually highlights, they’d think he’s lacking.

[ * ] - Vic who? Vance? Never heard of him, fine you’re going to have to tell me who he is later. CROYD of course joking around.

I could get behind Dudley (not that way) being a solid option for learning, but idk about Q or Yun. I mean idealistically sure, I could agree easily that way, but practically I don’t see most new people having the patience to learn Q or the sanity to learn Yun. I feel like someone would have to be mentored to start with either of them. Newborn Qs I have no experience fighting, but I remember butting heads with a lot of random Yuns on 3SOE and almost every single one of them was trying to be fancy with Yun when he or she knew nothing about the basics of 3S. Or at least looked like they didn’t know. The players have got to have some kind of control or something to help them focus on actually learning Yun or you just get a nutjob new guy going crazy trying suicidally to just Genei Jin juggle all day.

I really have no idea how well Q would fit the average new guys mentality, but if they’re really into 3S beforehand and patient I can definitely see that working out. The other option would be that you actually have them learn all three characters for their first few weeks I guess, but I don’t know how well that would work with new people either.

I think overall it’s more about the player’s mentality going into the game than it is about their character selection, but I’m assuming this topic is about those people on the edge.

Average new guy mentality = play him like Balrog probably. That’s the image I had and seemed like everyone tried to use him as at the start of OE.

i hate dudley, so much fucking jumping.

stop jumping goddammit>:(

also, dont quite know how to explain it, but I personally feel its easier to get to a higher level with ken rather than chun.

Online Dudley’s.

Online Dudleys are the worst

Full screen everything all day

They’re the best for free wins, man, what’re you talking about?

Ibuqki Fighter III: Online Kendition

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