Does hype do more harm than good for games

I guess depends where your area of location of where you live and the competition of where you’re attending.

What does that have to do with anything we’re discussing?

We get it, you don’t like MVC3. Let’s move on, shall we?

And there are players whose reaction and button press are just faster than another.

I was thinking of the forums.

Most know about the arcade “this machine is for us, you play on that one” when you weren’t up to snuff.

lol @ the copycat. Hungry Hungry Hippos…

To Sho Nuff- You say everything is subjective, and that is correct. But if so, then why does it bother you that some people think Capcom will fuck DS4 up? Because unlike them expressing their opinions and bitching about the games, you bitch about them and how dare they not like what you like. Have they ever stopped you from expressing your love?

So if you still don’t understand that “bad” is a word on a PERSONAL SCALE, let me paraphrase it:
The company who makes Melty Blood (for example) seems to know what its player base likes more than what Capcom knows about players who liked the older Capcom games. Is this impression wrong or not? DevilJin 01 said it already in the thread in different words.

Right. So it’s silly when people try to call a game “easy mode” in general because it was easier for them to get a hang of it.

Sometimes people tend to look at things from only their viewpoint, and not look at them from the viewpoint of a beginner or low-level intermediate player.

I don’t care about people thinking what they want. The annoying part is when they feel the need to keep beating us over the head with their opinions and trying to pass off their opinion as fact.

That’s why I say that if you don’t like a game, then shut up and move on to a game that you do enjoy. Nobody is stopping you from playing VF. You just seem to be having a tantrum that it won’t get as many viewers on a stream that a Capcom game will, and that’s something you’ll just have to deal with.

I guess really depends on the players mentality, enjoyment, and how quick he/she learns the game.

I still like the quote “I love this game.” Though it won’t be work in this department. :stuck_out_tongue:

Man, I have.
Especially a few years back… Wizard had to threaten people to get them to stop

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Sho Nuff doesn’t like when people talk mean about a fighting game. He’s a hippy except meaner.

Getting good at a shooter is WAY easier than getting good at a fighting game. Dota games, I don’t know about.

As far as newer games, they aren’t a guaranteed win either. Plenty of people lost a lot in 3rd Strike, picked up SF4, and started losing in that too. Like someone said earlier, some people just look at a new game as a chance to start fresh, not to mention the fact that they may actually enjoy the game.

Well, to be fair, ST is a solid game.

MB before AA was a piece of hot fucking garbage.(I still think Nanaya Shiki isn’t balanced)

It’s kind of like Street Fighter moved from a condo into a nice townhouse, and MB moved from the hood into a restricted community.

How weird is it that I am the one feeling the need to play peacemaker?

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No, I am the meanest.

Seriously, I don’t care that people have negative opinions of games. Like I said, people don’t need to beat us over the head constantly with those opinions, though.

It’s sheer luck to those who have no idea what is happening and never spent the time and effort to learn how to play the game. You are living in an alternate dimension if you think sheer luck or people getting hit for pressing buttons doesn’t happen in other fighting games.

You just described Karate Champ.

I guess that makes Karate Champ the best, most fundamentally sound fighting game around.

And, you are all idiots if you choose to play any other fighting game over Karate Champ.

Yeah this is pretty much what it comes down to. People feel the Capcom fighters are doing too much radical changes to the inner mechanics. Even the basic basic stuff is just really different compared to the older games.

It also comes down to name recognition and people recognize Capcom. They’ll hate on it because they remember what Capcom games used to be and there are a lot of things gameplay wise from the older Capcom games that are missing in the newer ones.

Hype is hype. It’s nice, it’s fun, it’s dramatic but people didn’t suddenly stop watching or playing SFIV due to hype on its own. The game has been out for 3 years and there’s a TON of other fighting games out now. SFIV despite being the most popular SF game is just the 29038492th SF game to come out and when people are seeing a lot of other really interesting fighting games release that aren’t made by Capcom…yeah they’re probably going to go to them. SFIV is a decent game, but it doesn’t live up to the older SF games so well that people won’t just jump ship to other stuff and completely leave it alone. Sometimes you just get bored of a game competitively.

SFxT just has so many issues that go beyond how hype it is. Just on a casual feature standpoint, the game is icky for a lot of people and that’s bad for a game that’s trying to be the best of a less niche than before genre of games.

Not EVERYONE is bored of SFIV/SFxT and running to MVC3 like the claims in the OP, but in general people are shifting to other games to find something else to do. You can’t blame them for not wanting to play SFIV for another 6 or 7 years. The game isn’t THAT interesting in comparison to the older SF games competitively and there’s A LOT of other interesting fighting games coming out. The scene isn’t SFIV and MVC3 anymore. It’s back to the old days where there’s a ton of games people are playing competitively in the US. This never changed in Japan because Japan has arcades but yeah.

This thread generally places too much importance in stream numbers as some holy deciding factor for what people are playing competitively at tournaments. The only thing it kinda accounts for is SFxT, but again that’s because the game has controversy even outside of its competitive aspect and that’s what will hurt a game the most.

oh god how do i missed this glorious gem of stupid shit
LMA fucking O
seriously Branh0913 make yourself a favor and stop talking about games that you dont know or understand, is the same shit that happened on the other thread, you were called out for how stupid are your point of views and how little do you know about the games that you already said, you dont play

What does DotA have to do with the FGC? They’re two different areas: DotA, LoL, SCII are all RTS (Real Time Strategy), and fighting games, is a mental game. Unless my opinions are different.

Darkstalker 3 is more than 20 years old, people were making jokes about Morrigan’s aging sprites back in CvS2. Is it people’s fault for wanting a more modern game with better graphics?

Because they’ll have a chance to level up along with everyone else, rather than playing 15 years of catch-up.

And stop assuming that every new player quits when they lose. That’s a rather silly and elitist generalization.

Marvel 3 gets new players every day, despite having been out for a year.

SF4 gets new players as well, despite having been out for 3-4 years.

Not to mention that some people tend to learn better when matched with other players that are at or slightly above their skill level.

Nobody wants to be a personal punching bag just so you’ll have someone new to play with.