I think you’re wrong about that though. True pros are nothing like people playing games for fun. In just about any game, people don’t want wins just handed to them, but they do want a field where they feel they have a chance and are making progress. Your average person would think it was cool to play against Jordan for about 3 minutes… if he were playing seriously anyways.
Edit: I think tekken vs VF is that many many many times as many people had Playstations as had Saturns… It’s really that simple.
if you asked me shoultz, who would rather play ball against jordan, kobe, iverson, shaq, magic, lebron or would you play the st.marys school for the blind and physically handicapped?
some people like challenges, other people want easy wins. Like I said, too much pussy in new generation. Its not in all of them but its sure as fuck in a lot of them.
I went backed and challenged some of the old school HF-ing players through GGPO and that shit was mad fun I even beat a few of them and I certainly lost way more than I won.
You don’t like the game, so it must be a bad game. If someone said that about your precious VS, you’d troll and flame them because you have no other argument.
Again, all you’re doing is pouting because nobody wants to let you walk all over them in a 15 year old game.
I understand if you don’t do so well in the newer games, but you’re taking it a bit far.
Again…your argument will be more interesting when you just apply it to all video games. Why do you think games aren’t made like NES Ninja Gaiden anymore?
They won’t play them due to name recognition first and foremost. The other stuff like the skill barrier is a far far backseat. Most of the complaints I’ve heard about why people will/won’t play a game pretty much comes down to GameFAQs shit like what the characters look like and what the controls are like.
You don’t even get a chance to bring up the other stuff because they’re already set on characters and controls and gameplay options.
Yeah that’s why that argument never gets anywhere either.
There’s challenge and challenge, try to remove yourself from all the years you’ve been playing, all the experience and skill you’ve built up over the years, and look at it that way.
You wanting to play champions might be like a pro ball player playing against Jordan, but almost everyone else is at best a highschool district champion team player, and that’s a whole different scene. Your position and experience is pretty unique for the games you play… most people don’t have those options.
And again, its not about being handed free wins, it’s about having a meaningful but not overwhelming challenge.
You can say that it shouldn’t be that way, but you also need to deal with the fact that it is that way. For every 1 person that would play a first to 100 with Justin Wong and enjoy every loss there are probably a hundred people who look for a place that’s at their skill and/or slightly above, and maybe ten who try to play the worst people they can find for easy ego wins (all numbers pulled directly out of ass, but it’d be something like that).
The old days were exactly the same. We’ve talked about it before, but I know you’ve had the experience at least a few times of ‘clearing’ a machine, going on until people wont’ play you anymore. It’s exactly the same thing, and its as old as competition.
Most of them do, it’s just that some of them would rather be dicks to newer players, then wonder why nobody wants to play “their” game all of a sudden.
you know I love you man, but Schoulz is being really chill today and it’s an interesting discussion. Could ya do me a favor and lay off prodding him for a bit?
Yeah games aren’t really made for the player themselves to have to struggle over long period of time to figure out elaborate strategies for winning anymore. It taps a lot into how fighting games work except they’re just vs. competitive also. Capcom is just doing what other companies noticed made newer games successful and you can’t really blame them for doing that even if it will inevitably always be compared competitively to the older stuff.
