Does hype do more harm than good for games

Don’t viewers just hype only to those that are from the company Capcom or a gameplay that has a Capcom playingstyle? Cough Skullgirls Cough

Give me 3 names of sequels that were clearly superior over the original (which is what a sequel needs to do) and still got hated on.

That’s a loaded question, because everybody has different opinions.

Some people feel that SF4 is better than SF3, and vice versa.

Some people feel that MVC3 is better than MVC2, and vice versa.

There is no right or wrong answer to that question.

But what does any of that have to do with people hating on everything but what they play, then bitching that no one else plays what they play?

You say there’s no right or wrong yet you complain about people who are angry about changing the games they love into something they don’t…

It’s a long way between “loving ST” and loving “everything about ST”, including the bad stuff, and the exceptions don’t change the rule.
For every James Chen or Damdai who think ST is simply perfect there are far more people who love ST for the good parts of it, and SF4 does not have them. You can’t use one extreme to justify another extreme, when most people are somewhere in the middle.

I’m not complaining; I simply stated a fact.

The DS thread was going fine until the Grumpy Old Men came in and started whining.

Just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it bad.

It does make it bad, for you.
And what has Capcom done to give people a reason to be optimistic, that the game would be an improvement?
Considering their track record- Nothing.
When new fighting games do show a serious approach and the developers take their best players seriously, they get love back.
Take for example KOF13, MBAACC, VF5FS and countless other games.

Even when the developers compromise, the players tolerate it if the changes are reasonable and make sense. (For example the new throw system in VF5FS)

“Clearly Superior”.

Back to the nice clean-cut binary world that is the FGC.

Again, just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it bad.

Contrary to what you may think, your word is not the end-all, be-all of the FGC.

If you like VF, MB, and KOF, fine. Go play those games.

Just stop bitching because people like games that you don’t.

Take 2 words and reply on them while ignoring the whole post.
Back to xes’ usual forum activity.

Wow it’s like going in circles with you.

If people generally don’t like the decisions made by Capcom, then of course they’d be hesitant buy another game from them becuase it will be the same antics. 3 games straight and there are still recurring problems in all of their major fighting games that live by the name of the brand alone.

If the people that want new Vsav are suggesting a new game, then fine. Anything would be fine with them, especially if they didn’t play the previous game. That was exactly the problem. But whatever, stating your opinion is wrong. Just lemme know how you like them 30 frame guard cancels and full screen pushblocks, with sloppy controls.

I gave those games as examples because players of MB/KOF/VF etc. do not shit on the current versions of their series.
Now stop repeating your mantras and try to fucking think for a second why Capcom isn’t in the same position as the above. What is the difference?

The games do well because people actually like them. No, everyone doesn’t like them, but more than enough people do to the point that there are large scenes for these games. You may not like the decisions made by Capcom, but plenty of other people do, both newer and older players. Again, stop acting like you’re the voice of the people.

From what I’ve heard, quite a few OG KOF players hate on XIII because the game focuses on crazy combos rather than normals and footsies.

The other two game communities are too busy enjoying their games to whine about why they don’t get as much recognition and stream viewers as Capcom games (with the exception of you, of course).

To me, I think XIII is what XI should have been. 2002 and 98 was my type of tea. But I think with XIII is a combination of XI and 2002.

No seriously, your entire post collapses to nothing useful once you said that. All this shit is subjective. Is ST or 3S “clearly superior?” How about KOF98 or KOF2002? How about SFA2 or SFA3? Soulcalibur 1 or 2? SSF4 or AE?

There are essentially two options;

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Western MB community is wishing their developer acknowledges their existence.

VF community finally got another console VF game after ~5 years of begging SEGA and are fucking ecstatic and doing all they can now to attract new players.

If people didn’t like 3S because the characters are weird, what do they think people will say when they see DS4? Lol.

I say let Capcom keep making “bad” games/decisions, all those annoyed players are migrating to other fighters and loosening the choke hold of Capcom.

Why do I feel that West coast players are more douchy, and East coast players are more friendly? I must be hallucinating.

I agree with this. In general the OP is overstating what impact “hype” has on the games. The games that get the most hype on streams are games that I’m pretty sure most of us on this thread personally don’t find very interesting to watch. It’s all perception really. Fighting game hype is still backseat on the hype o meter compared to other games. The thread is basically arguing a small civil war issue when in reality the bigger problem is the entire FGC when it comes to hype is still being outshined by other games.

The civil war of hype between games in the FGC is pretty damn irrelevant when other genres of competitive games are still firing bigger rockets at us, but for some reason we fight each other and blame it on ourselves.

That is probably the biggest problem with the FGC. Is that we’re always fighting each other while other games on the other side of the grass still thrive more prominently and garner more hype.

What is certainly true is that amongst the community people are extremely picky with what they feel truly makes an interesting fighting game competitively. It’s always been that way and always will be that way. Despite the issues with it I think it’s the single most interesting part of the fighting game community and makes it as diverse as it is.

Amen to choices.

I’m willing to test any game first before I make any final judgments. But I think most people tend to judge before the game is actually released, which brings negativity to the FGC.

This.

Even if I don’t like it, I don’t bash it constantly. I just say that the game wasn’t my cup of tea and move on to something that I do enjoy.