When you’re making a bad choice, but go through with it anyway, what are you really accomplishing?
Well, I think there’s something to be said about supporting a greater cause than just a company. If people want esports to thrive, there has to be a community. The game looks like it plays well, and I think that it would be entertaining to watch, so why not? As mentioned numerous times in the thread, you are not required to buy the character pass.
Supporting Capcpom’s schemes is the exact opposite of supporting the FGC.
The community deserves better.
I only half agree with you here. The community does deserve better from Capcom. I’m not the biggest fan of how SFV launched (arcade mode aside) or works in general. But at the same time, Capcom remains the pillar of the community. Have they gotten kinda lax in that position? Absolutely. But until something comes along that knocks them off that pedestal, that’s what we have. I’m not saying that you should just bend over and take what they give you, but that unless the community as a whole actually comes together and jumps ship to a different game, nothing is gonna change. There are a ton of competitive fighters that want to be played and enjoyed, but let’s keep complaining about Capcom, right?
Now, while we know a decent amount about the game, we don’t know everything. By the time SFV launched, we pretty much knew everything that came with the game. Compared to MVCI, we know jack shit outside of like 6 or 7 characters and half the gems. I’ve always been an advocate for waiting until all or a sufficient amount of information is available. They might have the greatest roster in any FG right out the box, but we’re gonna give the game flack for saying that 6 of them aren’t in the game off the bat? Come on.
Other companies have been doing better than Capcpom for years, yet for some reason, the community continues to support them, and only them, despite the fact they’ve been doing far below the even the barest minimum on their fighters.
I complain about Capcpom because they have the potential to be THE leader in fighting games, but absolutely refuse to expend even the slightest bit of effort.
SNK, NRS, ArcSys, LabZero, French Bread, and even old backwards ass Nintendo have shown more that Capcpom, yet outside of Smash, no one gives a fuck about their offerings on a bigger scale.
I could understand the community hitching their wagons to Capcpom back in the day, when they were the only game in town, but this half-assed shit they do now is not needed.
Demand better. You deserve it.
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Po, NRS is just as bad as Capcom when it comes to DLC. Come on now. They announced 9 DLC characters *before *they were even finished the roster. This was after being radio silent about the game for months. The same NRS basically gave PC gamers the finger when their MKX port was broken and they completely abandoned the port altogether. Packing your game with single player stuff doesn’t suddenly make them exempt from this.
The NRS community got a pot bonus for MKX at EVO and **still **ended up with less entrants than a game (UMVC3) that had no pot bonuses and basically peanuts. The only thing keeping the game going was the players.
Capcom has done a lot of dumb shit that I won’t begin to defend, but let’s not act as if **all **of these other companies are now pro-consumer. The fact that they’re (NRS) fucking consumers in the ass from a different position doesn’t change the fact that they’re **still **fucking them in the ass.
So, out of everything I said, you go on an NRS tangent instead of the meat of what I said?
Yes, NRS fucked ALL the way up on that MKX PC port… But as far as Injustice is concerned they’ve been very upfront about their business model, and what is in each package. I don’t agree with everything they’re doing, but at least they aren’t lying or being purposely cryptic about the roster or the DLC.
Boon is also on record apologizing to PC players for MKX, Capcpom has NEVER apologized for any of their innumerable mistakes.
Speaking of support, NRS/WB tosses in major pot bonuses in their tournies… Capcpom didn’t give MvC3 players shit… Seems like they might actually give more of a fuck about their community than Capcpom does theirs.
I understand the gist of your post. I’m simply elaborating on the fact that DLC is something utilized in **all **of these other companies you mentioned as doing great things. Some more than others. You either dislike DLC for what it is or you don’t.
NRS has a deluxe edition with 3 DLC characters that are unknown, an ultimate edition with 9 DLC characters that are unknown, and a character (Darkseid) that requires you to pre-order the game. Marvel has a deluxe edition with 6 characters and one that’s known, but this is somehow worse? Don’t see how. Both are selling you on something that is largely unknown.
As for being up front, Capcom and Marvel said they intend on working on the game for the long-haul, which is presumably what’s being done with Injustice 2. We still have months to learn about Infinite, so no issue there.
Capcom has said SFV was the game that made them realize they have to pack their games with content. And I’m 100% sure Ono has apologized numerous times for the unstableness and mishaps of SFV. I know because I’ve read his Twitter constantly since SFV launched. He’s actually thankful people are still supporting and playing the game.
Everyone at Capcom *isn’t *some evil gang of thieves that are looking to steal money. All companies want money. DLC is optional. You either buy it or ignore it. The best part is you don’t even have to spend money on non-cosmetic stuff in SFV. I have every single DLC character from SFV and I paid a total of $0 to get them. I’m not a Capcom defender. I’m simply showing that this is not as black and white as many people want to believe it is.
I’ve stated multiple times in the past that I am not opposed to DLC. I am opposed to terribly implemented DLC, such as how Capcpom does things. NRS at least has the decency to show you the majority of the playable roster before breaking out the DLC tip jar, and Smash waited until the game was out a few months before rolling out DLC stuff.
We don’t even know how many, or who the playable roster is, and a major storyline character is being trapped in the Space Gem’s DLC Paywall super.
Po, NRS had only announced **9 ** playable characters *before *they announced that there would be 9 DLC characters post-release. Forget about Capcom for a second and tell me, do you honestly believe that’s the definition of decency?
They weren’t even talking about the game for months before they came and announced the ultimate edition along with Braniac and pre-order Darkseid. This is hardly any different than what Capcom did in terms of timing. The main difference is Capcom **stupidly **did it with Sigma, which was a terrible decision that nearly 100% of us agree on.
The majority of Injustice 2 characters have been announced in the past few months. It might seem like we’ve known their roster for awhile, but we didn’t.
All I’m trying to say is it helps to look at things from a non-bias perspective. I hate early announcement of DLC in general. Capcom is **dumb **as a doorknob at times. NRS is **not **a godsend to the community. Those are my main points here.
SFV has proven that not everyone will willingly throw money at Capcom through brand alone, so they have to change their approach to making their games sell. We’ll see how Infinite plays out.
DLC was never the top part tho
I’m going to support the shit out of it.
Which they’ve abandoned, we don’t know a single character in the Injustice season pass.
everybody knew they would go the Season route and give DLC characters as Season progresses. No scam here.
C’mon son.
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I agree. Capcom has indeed messed up but dropping their support will make them worse. They have the base skills to get a good quality fighters to casual and hardcore players. They need more support now than ever. They need to listen to more suggestions from others and take notes from other fighting games.
I see this post or something similar every Capcpom pre-release cycle. It always ends badly… Don’t trust the throne of lies known as Capcpom.