Do you hate Rob Liefeld? Step on in!

How can you hate Rob Liefeld if he produces hilarious stuff like this?

Now Greg Land on the other hand…

what’s wrong with pornface in comics?

Ever has a huge shrine devoted to Rob Liefeld.

no but i think i might start a deadpool shrine

AHVB!

But yeah the link was hilarious.

did you put up your prize for guessing the skrull yet? i’m sure you love it

:rofl:

I don’t even know where it is anymore. I think it almost absorbed my soul or gave it pointy feet, I forget which.

Here’s the Maxx-proof version of the pic (didn’t highlight the reflection and the external light-source issues because that would cover the entire image):

red: lines that lead…somewhere… thighs that go in the middle of the body, left arm goes in the middle of the torso, etc.
blue: anatomical problems
green: light source that doesn’t act as light
yellow: colorist error (lol I can’t blame the guy/girl but the editor and inker should’ve caught it)

Liefeld’s a genius. He knew he couldn’t draw the iris of the eye that matched with each other so he designed characters with eye makeup (Domino and Shatterstar) or with one cybernetic eye (Cable and Stryfe). That took care of 4 characters already. Boomboom wore sunglassess all the time and he drew Cannonball with goggles.

sometimes porn pose too:

(from ultimate power #1 came out 2006, I dunno if that’s old enough for sano to be posted)

EDIT:
To Sano when he reads this (and probably removes the greg land image): Can we have embedded images enabled in the comic-section please. It’d be much easier for you to moderate too because you don’t need to click each link.

'06 is 2 years ago so that’s fine. Thanks for letting me know the year. :tup:

Fairly sure I don’t have that kind of power to allow embedded images in this forum. I can take it up with higher ups. I’ll look into it but I can’t promise anything.

You can attach thumbnails. The problem with thumbnails is that I can’t edit and/or remove them, so if something has to go the entire post has to go.

Just don’t toss up anything new, a year or older is fine. So January 2007 and down is cool. When in doubt, use your judgement and if it’s not too blatant like something out of Onslaught Reborn #5 I’ll look away as best as I can. I don’t know why you’d want to subject anyone to more bad artwork but different stokes different folks I guess. :rofl:

My PM Box is always open if you wish to discuss this further. It’s up to you but no need to post something to get my attention, I get back to people pretty fast. Now back to Liefeld… :sweat:

I LOL’D HORD at the teeth comment.

How many teeth do people have? Give them a million.

I don’t hate Liefeld for this same reason. His drawings make me laugh. That’s worth something to me.

Well he’s no Ed Brubaker.

Ummm…sorry for being a noob, but what exactly is so ‘infamous’ about Liefield?

Allow me to tell you about a fabled time in comics history known as “the 90s,” when overly stylized violence and characters with ridiculously exaggerated anatomy ruled the day. During “the 90s,” there was this fellow I want to tell you about, by the name of Rob Liefeld. Now, this here story I’m about to unfold took place just about the time of our conflict with Saddam and the Iraqis. I only mention it because sometimes there’s a man… I won’t say a hero, 'cause what’s a hero? But sometimes, there’s a man, well, he’s the man for his time and place. He fits right in there. And that’s Rob Liefeld. And even if he’s a lazy artist–and Liefeld was most certainly that. Quite possibly the laziest of the 90s, which would place him high in the running for laziest in all of comics. Sometimes there’s a man… sometimes, there’s a man. Ah, I lost my train of thought here. But… aw, hell. I done introduced him enough.

Sooooooooooooo basically he was a lazy ass of an artist and his laziness reflected his art and as such was disliked back in the 90s, when in truth his art might’ve been praised in say the 60s or 70s?

Not really. I’m saying his art typified the era in its excessiveness and its attempts at “grittiness,” and that he was also very sloppy. And he was very popular, because of the way he jelled with that era.

If he were in the 60s and 70s, I honestly don’t think he would have been nearly as popular, because that wasn’t the design aesthetic at the time. People were into the economy and technical accuracy of guys like Kirby and Ditko. It would be like introducing Metallica to a 60s rock and roll audience.

  • “Designed” characters like Deadpool aka Wade Wilson (ripoff of Deathstroke aka Slade Wilson), Agent America (ripoff of Captain America), etc, etc.

  • Straight lifted, traced and copied panels from other comics and manga.

  • His art skills seems to degrade overtime unlike other artists (but it can be argued that Thibert and especially Todd McFarlane who inked Rob’s most popular stuff were the ones who made his art look ‘good’ because they made a lot of changes when they inked over it. Compare Rob’s covers of X-tinction Agenda (inked by McFarlane) versus Rob’s X-Force (2005?) where it looks like Rob used a ball-point pen to ink.

  • Inconsistent and has a horrible grasp of anatomy, weight, composition, and functionality.

  • Never meets deadlines and always late.

  • Wrote stories and dialogue like than a 10-year old would. “Eat Shit and Die! Shithead!” (typical line from his title ‘Youngblood’).

Despite all this, he is one of the most popular and highest paid pencillers in the business. That is where I think most of the anger comes from. There was even a Levi’s 501 ad which was specifically made ABOUT him as a comic book artist.

Like I said though, I don’t hate Rob Liefeld. How could I? He let Alan Moore write the best Superman story ever told (through Supreme)!

I love him in the same way I love “Manos: Hands of Fate” and “Plan 9 from Outer Space”. I hate the system that allows this to happen AND THEN turns around and complains that its not being treated seriously as a medium. (a topic for another thread).

for a visual please see subject: Back to the Future

Pretty much Rambo had a big influence, on top of Terminator and any other person in that class you want to think of. Everyone had random tech devices attached to them, mostly for aesthetics. Plus the bigger the gun you carried the better of a person you were. Cable can be carrying a 5 foot barrel plasma bazooka (because bazookas were the shit back then), and instantly he’d be better than someone who had a regular 6 iron to his head - and not because of Cable’s powers mind you :slight_smile:

I have to admit, the only thing that prevents me from considering Supreme to be on the same level as stories like All Star Superman or Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? is the artwork in the “90s” sections of Story of the Year. I realize it’s correct for the period it’s portraying, but that doesn’t make it any less annoying.

Now hold it right there, DeadPool is anything BUT a ripoff of Slade Wilson; Slade is a pedophile; DP has affections for Nubile people, but his forever sex interest will always be Bea Arthur.

Well from what the post about Rob, i guess I’d only know if I read the stuff he worked on, but I kinda understand his ‘infamous’-ness.