So do I.
It is point fighting, not continuous, but it is still full contact and you can win via knockout. When I am going for a point, I can hit you with as hard as I want. I do not have to control my contact like ITF, or sport karate.
Unless you equate “full contact” with “continuous”, which is wrong.
full contact is pka style, the style they do in europe. olympic isnt full contact. the fact you cant punch to the head…or lower body doesnt make it full contact man.
You need to read a fucking dictionary and read what “contact” means.
What the hell is PKA?
By your definition, boxing isn’t full contact because you can’t go below the belt.
Can I hit you as hard as I want? If yes, it’s literally full contact, regardless of the rules.
Yeah you can ko in tkd, but you really don’t want to come at people like that. Concussions and damage.
You can go full blast with body kicks, but points are the point.
I boxed, wrestled, and did tkd
Black belt here too
Before i got hurt. I introduced axekicks and hook kicks to the thighs/calf just as theory kicks
You go for a teep and come down with a heel to the thigh
I love martial arts. I loved finding grappling wish i did it sooner. Grappling is harder than striking.
if the goal is to gain points…shit aignt full contact. the main goal is to have the most points…not knock your opponent out.
Contact has never referred to the objective of a sport, and I’m fairly confident you know that.
No shit. That doesn’t mean I can’t try and take your head off if your guard is down.
Olympic TKD by the very definition of the phrase, is a full-contact sport. It may be BENEFICIAL to go fast over hard, but there’s no rule stopping you, unlike actual semi- or non- contact sports.
It’s sort of unsaid agreement. You go as hard as needed.
I never had my hands down but dumb people came with that kim kapwan hands down stance
My coaches always said hands up
I have broken arms in competition, but who blocks with their forearms
I remember watching my team and some goof does that goku standing thing and says “i have no weak points”
Then he gets axe kicked in the nose
Catch tourneys are awesome. Suplexes and slams and dwl takedowns.
Shotokan Karate does actually a lot of sparring. Half of the last night’s training was sparring. But in Shotokan you perform the technique and stop before actually hitting the opponent. Also, in my club there’s one 11 years old girl, everybody else are grown ups, most of them really big guys, 3 of them with black belts.
What you fail to understand mate is that not everybody is looking for the same things in MAs, that’s why there are so many different styles, so you can choose whatever fits you. I love training my body, learning how to hit, block and performing all sorts od techniques. However I do not like coming home every night covered all in bruises or having my brains shaken 3 times per week. That’s why Shotokan Karate fits me perfectly. Our sensei told us kyokushin karate is great…if you have the body for it.
You can’t learn how to hit or block without making contact
It is stupid
Martial arts are for fighting and self defense.
Big guys means fat right? It is dumb as hell to me as a guy who has trained most of my life to avoid contact at all
No, big guys means taller than me (I’m 1.76 m) and really fit. In Shotokan Karate you make contact during sparring (kumite), but the technique stops once you made the contact. The advantage of this style of training is that almost anything is alowed, avoiding bad habits like not being used to defend from punches to the face or needing to use protective gear.
we fight full contact, the only thing we don’t commit to are elbows/knees to head and no bone snapping dumog obviously
Nah very lame sounding. You are a giant wuss.
As long as I put someone on their arse with my kicks, there’s no unsaid agreement on how hard that needs to be.
Olympic players keep their hands lower for balance, and because they rely on movement to avoid getting hit in the head.
Blocking kicks with smashing-style blocks is retarded yes. But covering your chest still means you take a lot of shock on your forearms.
China has it right - smashing blocks are stupid, all you need to do is be soft and just put something in the way rather than meet force with force.
You should be blocking or jamming with the meatier part of your arm, down towards the elbow. Not the thin part of your arm like Karate or TKD. It’s stupid.
You really need to guard with both arms against roundhouses anyway.
I use peakaboo and philly shell style defense that is just me being a tyson mark though
Done Wing Chun for a long time and I also am a very experienced Judoka but haven’t been doing it for a while now.
I did some Wado-Ryu Karate too but there was serious talk about focusing “chi”/“ki” there (which is complete nonsense) so that had me quit pretty damn quickly.
There’s A LOT of fakery in martial arts and some of it even seem like a religiously cultish brainwashing-scheme, like Islam, or Christianity, which I have a huge issue with. It is fake, be rid of it.
Also tried Tae Kwon-do but that’s complete shit. Jumping around doing flip-kicks and spinning kicks is something you’d strive not to do as it is very risky and I’d say Tae Kwon-do is one of the most useless and potentially most dangerous martial arts when it comes to your own well-being and actually may increase your own lack of self-defense.
There’s also those places who should go by the name “belt-sellers” where you basically can get to black in about 2-4 years. Those places are out for one thing, and one thing only - your money.
Depends on your teacher
But mma has shown that tkd style spinning kicks work
Spinning back kick is such a devastating and low risk move.
Also the foot work translates. You mix tkd principles with muay thai principles with boxing principles you got some dangerous weapons.
Side kicks, push kicks, round house, crescent, snap kicks, spinning back kicks, switch kicks, spinning hook kicks, hook kicks
All are great weapons to have
Wing chun is one stupid martial art. Let me keep my head and chin up and come at you with shitty punches
Three to four years is honestly an average and acceptable time for a black belt in TKD.
There’s 10 or so ranks between white and black in most school, and given a grading every 3 to 6 months, that about 30-60 months. Train 3 times a week for a couple of hours, and it all adds up.
saying theirs an average time to develop as a black belt is why we have such a watered down system. no one should be getting a black belt in 4 years. they do it because westerners want everything now rather than be patient and devlop their skills like they should. this is one of the main reasons i love bjj…trial by fire…tkd you remember some forms and maybe you do some sparring on test day. In bjj almost no one gets a black belt under 6 years.
Math must suck for you. It’s simply a product of the ranking system and how many schools conduct gradings. As long as the gradings are challenging, then it’s fine.
At lower ranks, the gradings are less intensive, but as you move up, you should basically be repeating every grading PLUS your new material.
It comes down to the instructors/masters, not the grading system. Stop giving away belts and make people earn them.
Why should people not be able to achieve a 1st Dan in 4 years? ITF literally says a 1st Dan only means you’ve mastered the basics. It has been this way since the 60s.
The dude is specifically talking about TKD black belts, not BJJ.
no shit. i’m offering a comparison from my years of being around both. TKD has become a belt fucking factory because they promise you a black belt in 4 years. you miss so much on the road there, because everything is catered to making sure they get that black belt. This isnt based off one schools approach but a whole fucking industry, this is why traditional martial arts is looked down so much. Because its watered the essence to make sure everyone gets their belts on time and so few schools are willing to actually hold people back when they truly need it. Bjj and other more modern combat sports do not approach martial arts that way at all. Thats why you are more likely to find quality bjj black belts than quality traditional martial artists today. The industry has its priorities fucked up.