Dive Kick? Yun General Discussion Thread

I only find the stun count annoying, not too bothered about lunge.

Decapre will take the attention away from Yun anyway. Buffed to the moon.

Still going to use EX Lunge.

Anybody dick around with him in Omega mode yet? I’m sure there will eventually be a thread for his specific omega mode stuff but figure’d i’d get the ball rolling here.

All i know is his light shoulder is really… strange, now that it doesn’t move any distance, but it seems really good for building meter lol

The change to his LP shoulder is his best buff, it took me a little while to figure it out but once you learn it I think you’ll feel the same way. Or instead of trying to figure out, just read the spoiler

Spoiler

You can link normals after LP shoulder now. I could link far LK and that’s the only button that will probably work on everybody with far LP being character specific. I think far MP is slower now because I couldn’t get it to link at all but I found far LK to be pretty easy, unless that’s a 3f start up in Omega. Anyways you can walk around fishing for far MP > shoulder and when you confirm finish with far LK > HK upkicks for 252 damage. I guess they took the idea from Yun players always using that confirm into Super and Red focus. But anyways there is going to be a bunch of character specific stuff when it comes to using this link though, you’ll probably have to stick with LP lunge against shoto’s since HK upkicks will whiff most of the time.

Dudeeee thats actually so fun.

First thing i did was random selected my opponent, which landed on Juri (doesnt seem to work on most that i try after that though):

cl.mp xx l shoulder, st.jab, far mp xx light shoulder xx fadc cl.mp xx l shoulder, st.jab, far mp xx light shoulder xx fadc cl.mp xx l shoulder, st.jab, far mp xx light shoulder

6 shoulders (or swap the last one for lunge/upkicks) in a combo for that swag~ does absolutely awful damage and stun for a full bar, but its fun! (350ish dmg / 650ish stun)

(twitch highlight of it, cracks me up)

i tried to play with the new nerfed yun, i’m getting far more slaughtered than usual (before, most match up were some kind of even to me, now, i mean, you just have to turtle against yun, and poke lights to prevent jump or dive kick lol. Lunge EX is quite useless unless 2 bars since we still have the upkick HK nerf (trades with light, loose to throw), you can use the upkick MK against throw, loose against everything else.

Less meter build. Seriously, it’s really harder, and i didn’t feel like kazuno. look’s like a nerf specially dedicated to kazunoko and pro player and all whiners about yun. But for a casual like me, it’s hard :slight_smile:
anyway, i’ll keep playing him because i don’t care to loose and i do not rage quit ^^

the best option after a lunge EX now seems to be a mixup between block & tech throw escape, backdash, or a risky forward jump cross up dive kick LK. Everything else is useless. Or ex upkick, which is random and costly, but since you can just mash 2LK / LP again this ex lunge and win most of the gambles… I would think +0 would be ok, or more pushback like the scissor kick of dictator, so there would be at least some mindgame about which poke you use after. Here, there isn’t any mind game at all.

random omega mode corner combo, close mk, lp shoulder, f+hp, ex lunge. 347 damage/530 stun
character specific omega (so far tested on Sim and Makoto) Close Hp xx Lp Shoulder, Far Lk xx Lp Shoulder, Far Mp xx Mp Lunge.
315 Damage/498 Stun

Made no difference to me, I just didn’t stun as fast. Then again, it’s XBL and people are bad.

Had no interest in Omega, didn’t even go into it. Maybe if I’m bored enough today.

how do you combo U1 in omega except upkick ex fadc, and after shoulder MP ou HP ? 3 bars for U1, or it’s useless -_- i don’t see the point. Everything else crumble too fast. Maybe after super but well…

ok i discovered to 66PP + PP 2 bars, can combu U1, but it’s does at most (with only MP as starting damage reduce, 40 more damage than a mp shoulder fadc 2MP 2MP MP whatever.
U1 is useless. better to take U2 to whiff punish …

He has a two bar option. It’s with the EX version of that new special move that forward, forward, 2 punch buttons. After the first hit comes out you have to hit 2 punch buttons again to launch your opponent then you can follow up with the non animation Ultra. I don’t know pressing the punch buttons require timing, I just mash it. And the special move will combo out of far MP so you can hit confirm into it. It’s just awkward and will take some time to get use to.

i saw that, thank you, but i still prefer some kind of far whiff punish ^^ instead of something barely worth the 2 bars, since you can do almost the same with 2 bars and no u1 :confused:
i’m a bit disappointed in his available combos though and the damage output compared to what i saw in some videos for other characters.

no more shoulder EX against fireball too.
Though his dive kick with less height restriction helps a lot (funny to see you cannot dive after reaching the apex lol), thus i suppose it’s ok.

best combo for damage so far for me is 2MP st.MP shoulder LP FADC 2MP 2MP st.MP whatever, ex upkick for 3 bars.
from poking, it’s still st.MP shoulder LK lunge LP or the new move,
though i don’t really see the point of this new move, except that 66LP is armor break and safe.

just checking yun omega frame data for basic specials.

shoulder on block is at least -5
66LP is -4 (punished by ryu super, and dragon MP & ex, not dragon hp though. punished by ryu 2MP too…

=> lol, yun has no safe option to do cheap damage (yeah, palm… mash dragon in between)
wtf

anyway, nobody seems aware of that for now :slight_smile:
but it won’t last ^^

With the whole 1 reset RFC stun not being a thing anymore, it seems like genei jin is the better choice for damage again

I don’t know exactly where to post this but I’m a ken player and I’m trying to expand my knowledge with the yun match up. If anyone of you guys want to help me out add me on xbl: slimztheguy

Yun still top 5 for you guys?

Been using Ken/Viper as of late, but been using Yun against Abel (fuck that guy). I never did find that secondary, been doing okay vs Gief with both Yun and Viper (providing I don’t fail my execution).

You’re leaving the Army :frowning:
I’m sad to hear this but only a few can survive the harsh weathers of Yun.
Great secondaries for Yun are on of these lot:-
Sagat (handles the iffy matchups)
Evil Ryu
Akuma

Only problem matchups you’ll find are Cammy and Fei if you choose one from above.

I still use Yun, I’m just hopping around. I’m finding this game extremely stale. My Evil Ryu is kinda fraudulent at the moment, I’ll drop combos most of the time until I play like 10 games… I find the Rose matchup annoying even though he wins it, lack of experience I suppose. The last game I played the guy was good but his connection was bad, I kept missing cr.mp after command throws. So I just went Bison and trapped him in the corner, doesn’t really help me learn the matchups I’m not familiar with but eh, if it lags, I’m not bothered lol.

The other 2 I’m not so bad with but Akuma I have to re-learn setups and then new ones. Although some characters you can just delay if you see technical. Viper just makes me salty online, “Waiting for player…” during FFF or any sort of cancel just results in a whiffed dp.

To me Ken is Ken, not that in depth, like Bison. You have to be really good, and smart to make him work though. The fact I can’t go to tournaments so often anymore doesn’t really help. If I get salty or not feeling the character, I’ll just go back to Ken/Bison. Jumped on Decapre too, the mixup game is fun.

Holy crap, I found another character in this game I actually like playing. And this time the character is actually good. WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN

You joining the club!!!

I need some Rose experience. Getting frauded out and having to switch characters.