tbh, if it’s true that Strider has no minimal damage scaling for anything, then he has two strikes against him: low health, and low damage per combo. However, he has the potential to cross-up and mix-up by himself thanks to Vajra, Wall Cling, and Form B, which can lead to resets that don’t involve throw scaling. Add a lockdown assist, and you’re free to mind**** your opponent.
My noobish hunch is that he’ll wind up like Scorpion in MK9: solid Mid-to-mid-high-tier with making good reads a must.
As much as I just want to rant about how stupid seismo, EX seismo, and buster cancels are, you’re totally right. The game has been out for 2 weeks, at this point in Vanilla most people considered Viper the worst character in the game, even lower than Hsien-Ko, so we obviously don’t have the full story on the new people or even the adjusted old people.
Judging by their current tools I think Viper and Zero are stronger, but we may not even really know all of Vergil’s tools so this may change.
No they don’t. This isn’t even good hyperbole, because there isn’t a modicum of truth to it.
Synikal read the actual balance/tier thread, renegade from that far in, MvC3 Actual Balance/Potential Tiers Discussion
His thoughts were later editted into the first post by the OP and stated she was in fact the worst character in the game.
if you continue to dig in that thread, I was calling viper top tier and one of the best characters in the game within month 1 iirc. I remember trying to convince renegade about how good she was mentioning this or that about viper and he would not simply agree based on tournament placings where as I was doing it off her tool set and my argument back then was, its only month 1 and viper will take more time to develop into a monster. Which she eventually turned into.
She used to be my main character and @ the time I was calling her good, almost everyone else was calling her trash because they were all on the renegade band wagon. He was right about somethings but it definitely wasn’t everything.
She was a character who had strengths that were too ridiculous and completely negated her weaknesses. It doesn’t matter if you have your longest reaching normal be minus on block if you can cancel it into something that’s +22. She had a lot of things that really are bad, just none of them really mattered since her other tools combined in a way to completely negate them.
Dude, that post was in March. Of course people were disposed to saying stupid shit. The game was a month old. Just like people are saying soon-to-be dumb shit now regarding Ultimate. No one’s saying that now, which is what your post states.
shrugs
Hopefully, I don’t end up derailing things, this is petty lol.
I’ll say that Strider is the best mix of assist/anchor in one character. Meaning that he helps both point characters throughout the match and when your left with just strider, his anchor game is one of the best as well.
Sure, Viper and Zero are better on point but there assists are ass
Wesker and Dorm are arguably better anchors but low gunshot and dark hole can only help your team so much
Haggar and Gold armor Heisn-ko are amazing assists but if you want them to assist both characters than your stuck with the worst anchors in the game at the end.
I don’t think that’s what his post states at all. Two weeks into Vanilla, Viper was ‘the worst character in the game’.
On topic, my only beef with Strider is he’s way too fast for me to control. Damn these stupid fingers!
I’m not here to say I’m disappointed with Strider, maybe it’s the wrong topic, but currently I’m running this pretty cheap team of Vergil-Wesker-Strider, and no matter which character I’m fighting, I find Strider normals great but not connecting some of my magic series for launching opponents with S, like my strings are not the right ones. Should I try to end my combos with Gram or do something else?
His normals may be great, but his range is not so good, even if I’m close to my opponents. Sometimes I just go for cL, cM, S and still not connecting that S and there goes another chance for doing some damage. This affects him against a lot of characters like Dante, Magneto, Vergil, Zero, Firebrand. I feel like I’m free for rush with a character that it’s suppoused to be rushing and setting up some mixups. Any ideas?
BTW Strider Y assist must be the new vanilla Haggar’s Lariat for Wesker, hands down.
I stick with st M, st H, -> H, S. The st L pushes back a bit once you get to S it whiffs.
LOL I sit him in back as well. LOL but I have been practicing him more on point because I had instances where I was lost. 
idk what video you’ve been watching, but clock did very well with strider. he’s probably the only decent strider i’ve seen, noone else on these streams have even touched him afaik.
Strider is with out a doubt in the S tier bracket. He can start and make endless combos off anything. Use him more and learn how to play him, just start out like the old MVC2 strider fist to get the hang off it quicker.
I personally have him as anchor just 'cause his assist works awesome for Vergil and specially Wesker, his mixups get 200% better, plus a hard knockdown is just what he needs and he lost it with Haggar in Ultimate. Still, I’ve figured out that it’s way better trying to land a LMH->H <xfactor> MH->HS, (MMH xx vajra L, satellite, relaunch) x3 in order to kill they and then activating dat lvl3 with the rest of the XFactor time.
I have to level up with him, i find him so hard to use at the moment, I’m really trying him the wrong way 
I don’t know why all the Vergil comparisons/hype is going on in this topic. He’s a very different character with the only real comparison being his teleports and the fact that he’s fairly good in XF3, but as you can see most characters don’t even use him as an anchor so this isnt really an issue.
Furthermore Vergil has got a big glaring weakness in his recovery times - if you switch up your style to fight him sort of like Hulk, where you bait an attack and punish, you can easily defeat him. That don’t happen to Strider. Outside of XF Strider has an infinitely easier time at opening up the opponent, and without that large recovery you can more easily setup resets. Completely different playstyles.
do you have vids?
clock didn’t do well with strider in tournament play if you ask me. doom and ammy did the work. but his assist really help doom setup combos.
He lost but that doesn’t mean he didn’t do his thing. Those matches with NYCFab were pretty close, and Fab is a really good player. Clock made top 16 right? That is extremely good for a tourney that size and for a relatively new game. I’m sure he’ll be in the lab working on those fancy strider combo’s and learning better mixups and defense. He could have incorporated a lot more teleport mixup game for overheads etc, but again it’s early in the game and people still have to really learn their characters. He didn’t do great, but he definitely didn’t do bad.