I think Fuerte comes in faster than you think he does! And you can’t say how much damage he does until you’ve been hit by RSF x8 (it was sad times man). Balrog I’m sure has a little more trouble getting in but some of the stuff he has has ridiculous hit boxes! I still think Rufus is pretty close to 7-3 on Sim too! I’ll be trying to make it to the SA tourney in Jan, you’ll be there right? Only thing is I have to drive to Oklahoma city that Wednesday too 
elf is very fast, but if it was me talking, i can kinda predict next on what he is going to do just simply cause i play the match alot.
. i play a ELF up here all the time :looney:
but your ass better be at the tourney! i want a rematch!!
PS: lets take this to the southwest thread before we get in trouble 
truthfully i have to say your match-ups are way off and that’s because you never experienced any great players.
seth 5-5 lol i played Arturo’s seth and i must say 3-7
viper 4-6, maybe an average to good viper. but when facing Sanford, Marn or Flash 3-7
rufus is def 3-7
abel 5-5, ehh again 3-7
sagat is not 5-5, maybe in the US but i must agree with Arturo and its 4-6
bison, hmm the only good bison i play here is Andre and he is the best bison in the country, i think its 4-6
there’s more but I’m tired.
These are the match ups i see because i play a lot of top skilled players, and with sim being low C i would agree with Japan and say he is the 3rd worst character.
Viper-Vipers favor(i think i did it backwards with the numbers)
Rufus-Rufus Favor
Abel- Slightly in Abels Favor
Bison-Even
Seth-Even
Sagat-Even
thats the way i see the matchups.
Every Time you play someone(doesnt matter who it is) the situation relys on what the character your playing and knowing what to do and what not to do in the match. thats just the terms of the gameplay and the game.
i think you play a little to much xbox live lol
lol im not an online player.
ask any top player, they see the character, not the person. if they know that matchup well enough.
One thing I feel like randomly adding to this: Even though Sim might not be regarded as a high-tier character, you can still win with him. The tiers are compressed enough in SF4 that you don’t have to be using a top tier character to be tournament viable.
In sinister’s defence that list is his own matchup view and not the consensus view.
From his list I personally find abel, bison, fuerte, sagat, balrog and seth not 5-5 but 4-6 or possibly worse in some cases. Gief is 4-6. Rufus feels like 3-7 and so does viper and abel. Akuma also feels like 4-6 to me. So many options and only 50 HP difference.
plan in simple if you not a shoto the match up is prob not even or in you favor.
if your fight a keep away character then it either even or in your favor. Sim just takes to much damage and so much about this game is not in his favor, from trades to pokes… Sure if you play him perfect you can do well, but the older this game gets the father down sim falls.
His shenanigan just aren’t holding together.
edit: all the rush down characters feel like 3-7 ( just to me) to be out side of abel. Akuma…geezu if you fight a GOOD akuma that does vortex it’ll make you want to stop playing sim all together. he has no answer for that.
a lot of you guys seem to think balrog is hard. I disagree. It’s at least 5-5 and at DreamHack I remember Gootecks saying he thought the matchups is in sims favour. I also think I heard Zak Bennet saying something like that but I’m not sure about that one.
Cammy option select vs Sim (and other teleporters like Bison and Seth)
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it ends up being meaty Spiral Arrow which can be followed by Cannon Spike FADC Ultra!.. :looney:
does not work on forward teleport… SA will wiff…
how often do you guys teleport on wakeup?? and is it mostly back teleport??
The that really gets me vs Balrog is the extremely good normals he has. If he gets in, everything seems to beat or trade with every b.normal Sim has
Depends on the opponent. :china:
Rog is a headache. I know the matchup really well… lots of good boxers round my way but if he gets you in the corner, and with his god-like jab and foot speed its a nightmare.
Yes I know throw or short slide xx super owns ex dash, down forward normals beat dash punches and so does b.mk, TAP can be jump back fierced, df.lp or df.mp and thrown at the right distance, he has no cross over and his overhead can be spotted a mile away but life, power and speed advantage for rog makes this at best 5-5 but at worst 4-6. I’m leaning towards 4-6 or 4.5-5.5.
rog match really depends, if he has not meter its in sim favor as soon as he get meter is not in sim favor anymore.
Outside of that boxer has he advantage in ever other way. I usually lose this match because i try to poke at rog. That always= failure.
Hmm how do you guys go about comboing into stuff from lk slide. I can’t seem to get the super to combo. I’ve always wondered how people seemingly cancel into a yoga fire right after a lk slide.
Other than that, any good antiairs against Gen. I hate that mofo’s jump.
I agree most people base their matchup numbers off XBL bullshit but you gotta factor in that Arturo is prolly just better overall. No offense to you, but i mean if I fight Jwongs Rufus 10 games…I probably won’t even win 1 game. But Bison-Rufus is not 0-10.
Or like, if ARTURO used his Sim vs his own Seth via some kind of cloning machine…then we would see what that match really was.
Although at this point its pretty safe to say Sim loses vs Everyone except Shotos and shitty characters. I think I actually heard he can keep Seth out pretty well though, and Seth takes big damage if he gets anti-aired…
hummmm don’t know about that one guy…more like 6-4 or 7-3 gief
Mario DOOD lol
I agree with EVERYTHING you just said.
But…who are the 2 characters worse than Sim? Dan and…? And Dan should be rated 3rd/4th worst because if he wins its epic fail on their behalf, making victory sweeter so thats a significant plus. Seriously.