Interesting tip, I love testing and descovering new Sim tricks
I assume the b.lk can also be blocked before going with U1. I should try it versus Cammy.
Check the trading ex blast -> teleport thread, another way to escape from the corner, especially versus Gief or Rufus.
yeah the yoga blast trade thread is the same idea. So theres a thread for post trade yoga blast into U1 (there should also be a post j.fp-b.mk> lp yoga flame thread), so there should be a thread or source that equals:
If im in the corner, what normals can I use(the fewest as possible) , then ultra 1= when I can get out of the corner free.
yeah its on block or hit, your fine.
Heres a good escape against Rufus in the corner that seems to make sense.
If your pushed into the corner heres how you can get out (I think).
Rufus knocks you down and your on your wake up, you block the dive kick and rufus has 3 options
- Throw: Unfortunately you kind of just have to eat this
the goal is to get out of the corner, so Iāll take a rufus throw (stupid 2nd best throw in the game BS) then a rufus combo.
- re-dive: back strong (mp): This is not only awesome to beat out dive kick, but you also get a ton of post b.mp options. You can:
a. cancel into fireball, creating space
b. mk slide into a meaty on there landing
Note: I havent tested this (gonna as soon as I get home) But does anyone If sim is one of the chars that if you are ducking right next to rufus and he ex messiahs, will the ex messiah whiff after the first part hits? That would beHUGE if thats the case but im not sure -_-;;
c. cancel the mp into teleport (my fav atm) obviously this is a risky option, but I almost guarantee the rufus will either jump backwards (cause theyāll have just held jump aftr the back mp) or ex messiah, which at least your out.
d. IAT, a pretty good option too, as I said, Rufus will either jump, whichāll lose to the IAT normal (b.hk probably in this spot), ex messiah, which burns a bar and only does minimal dmg) eat a fat combo :D, or s.lp you.
- Meaty dive into st.fp, galatic tornado: Heres the situation I was talking about that is the key to getting sim out of the corner I think. (although alot of Rufusās dont do this unless they hit confirmed the dive kick, but if it does happen then awesome).
After the galactic tornado gets blocked, Rufus is -1, and his cr.lp is 4(?) maybe 3, but regardless sims back lk is gonna win, so all you do is b.lk ONCE, then u1. Eating the throws will probably be enough to have given you Ultra, and if you do u1 in this spot, Rufus canāt messiah, or itll clip him.
REMEMBER though, if the Rufus chooses to block, DONT GO FOR DAMAGE, teleport the hell out of there and go for some post u1 dmg, but make sure it gets you out, thats the most important part.
Some feedback from sims on what you think of these set ups, as well as fine tuning some of the pieces would be cool ^^
i will be housing Marn, Andre Lambert, and Yipes this week so i will hopefully have some more sim videos
I was just wondering how far someone can be and still be able to walk up and throw dhalsim out of his ultra? It has 12 frames of start up, and I have had a Ryu walk up to me after I popped the ultra and throw me, even though he was nowhere in range for that before the ultra flash (Might have been a kara throw, but it was too far even for that).
Pretty much any time Rufus neutral jump dive kicks, you can U2. Either itās high and you react to the landing, or itās low and as soon as the animation starts you let it rip. I get a lot of mileage out of backthrow - lp fire - wait. Forward jump = st.rh. Neutral jump - they dive kick, U2; they donāt - they land on the fire; jump back - thanks rufus. Just buffer the motion as he jumps.
In one hour me and DRz_Yagami, top swedish player and best Dhalsim in europe, will be playing a ft10 on this stream: GGGames.se - reviews by enthusiasts
I donāt see the stream link there.
edit: Appearantley Yagami has trouble with his connection, so instead Iāll be playing the best Fuerte in europe, atleast from the ones Iāve played against, The Emperor
hmmm why are u tempting me to go u2 against rufusssssss
Iād never use U2 against Rufus.
As soon as he sees U2 he just stops neultral jump dive kick, abd then what do you do?
And when he slowly gets you on the corner, how do you escape?
When he dive kicks near you what do you do? U2 takes a huge chunk of life and yeah, it tempts us to use it always, but against Rufus, the pirority is to stop the dive kick pressure and to get out of the corner IMO.
Damn, If I had an Ultra 3, that was simply a teleport to the other side of the screen, Iād use that against rufus
lol, that actually isnāt unreasonable, if it existed XD
I went to GGGamesā ustream page, and found an archive of Yagami in a FT10 against a very solid Rufus named Louie. Lots of good games here, Yagami takes an early deficit, and then slowly adapts and changes his style. Extremely solid Sim. If you have troubles with the Rufus match (and Iām sure we all do), this is an excellent watch. Itās an hour+ of matches, and I havenāt gone through them all, but Iām just pausing after a match or 2, then I come back later and finish the rest. I never knew that Rufusā cr.mp was so good against Simās ground limbs from 1/2 screen+! Scary.
Iām halfway through the match, and obviously pulling for Yagami ;D
GGGarden Yagami VS Louie (FT10), Yagami(Sim) VS Louie (RU) gggames on USTREAM. Gaming Entertainment
Actually the same Rufus who blew me up at Dream Hack and Which I posted a match of further up in this thread:P Solid Rufus with a lot of sim experience!
never would still but new things are always fun
It is risky, but all I want to point out is that it can be useful. I think if youāre confident enough in your zoning itās something to consider.
friend told me that PI CHAMP pulled off some weird ultra 1 combo against warahk in the 3v3 segement of HAdocon. Something like he played ultra 1, then teleported, attacked, teleported to the other side and finished the combo? My friend doesnāt play sim so maybe he misunderstood what was ahppening. anyone know what iām referring to or have a link to that specific match?
Iāve seen a Sim (it was YHCmochi or Iyo) U1, teleport to the other side then teleport back to the original side to mess with the guys blocking but as far as attacking on one side then finishing on the other Iāve never seen that. That sounds interesting and I would really like to see it but there is a lot of Hadocon footage on iplaywinnerās justin.tv account
oh yeah guys by the way for those of you that have facebook i made a page on it called āThe Gnosis Empireā i will have updates on things i have discovered in SSF4, sometimes well im hoping alot of times there will be videos and also a variety of other things people are just generally into and have lack of knowledge of. So if you have facebook please check it out also add me my user name on facebook is āJago Margqulius shinszengateā