Dhalsim improvement thread

God damn. Dhali has instant overhead, drills, mummy, best teleport, good damage b/c of relativity, takes damage better, can rushdown or keepaway. Did ex upflame improve too? This mfer has too much. At least drills aren’t overheads…that would be too much. Top tier? It’s looking like it.

Is it confirmed that Sim has more health / stun? If he got 950/950, plus all the other little things he got, he’ll be a solid mid-tier for sure.

Ryu, Ken, Dudley, Cody.

Arturo himself thinks Dhalsim will be mid tier… That was 1 or 2 daya ago, but might have changed… I don’t think so though… He is definitly better, but will still have lots of hard match ups, so no top tier!

Yeah, my guess is that Viper, Rufus and Akuma will still rape Sim like a freshly jailed convict. Hopefully not.

I’m curious to see how those match-ups play out in Super, as well as against the new characters. What do you guys think of Juri vs. Sim or Ibuki vs. Sim? I’m thinking those two will be the hardest of the bunch.

I hope Arturo can chime in after all the experience he’s gotten in Super in the past few days.

Dhalsim will never be the new Ryu/Sagat, because no matter how good he is/how much potential he has, he’s too much effort for solid play compared to shotos etc. So I’m not worried

Any character with a strong crossup/divekick game will probably give him some trouble. On another note, I’m already seeing some option selects with drills.

Rufus vs Sim is 8-2 :crybaby: with Rufus’ new U2. Its basically a better version of Seth U1.

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As stated before drills are really good now and with the option to combo off them it really helps Sim out.

Yoga Blast is really good too, comes out a lot quick.

I don’t really like drills. Even in SF4.
Now they have a decent recovery, but they are slow, they aren’t overhead, they do no chip damage, you can only done safely at the end of the jump.
They’re still only good as a corner escape/avoiding fireball.

Mummy is good in few matchup (Ryu/Viper/Honda) , and now it’s easier to combo U1 with mummy.

Ahh your bummin me out gore. I was hoping for some good drills. Everyone has pretty mixed feelings about them so we will just have to wait and see i guess. I cant wait until tuesday. No one leaking copies out around here.

I have used mummy in the rufus matchup before, its good for beating him in the air, but it puts you close to him which is bad vs any character vs rufus its suicide. It’s like asking yourself which combo should i eat this time.

Double post, sorry!

The drills move faster, seem to deal more block and hit stun, and their hitbox extends farther and lower than it did before. They’re not ST drills, but they’re hugely improved over SF4 drills.

I totally disagree with gore, I think drills are very useful in offense now. Sim can now lk drill over most fireballs on reaction, and while most opponents can block it in time (Rose can’t!), he’s still safe, and at that range you the drill does enough block stun to give you a free block string. It’s also really nice as a meaty now. Try neutral throw, jump meaty rh drill. If time it right, it can not only be a crossup but can link to back+mk xx flame. Also, throwing a fire and then doing jump lk drill can be very hard for some opponents to get around, especially as a meaty.

if opponents can block in time a lk drill on reaction, this means they could also use a reversal to punish drill, like dp.
Sim’s close combat is not improved, so are you sure you want to be near your opponent? b.mk xx yoga flame unfortunately isn’t a safe block string after a blocked drill.
I’ve also tested doing a hk crossup, but also if you hit you’re still punishable.

I’ve also tried to spam hk drills on wake up, but it’s not easy like rufus’ falcon kick, and if you miss one of them, you’ll probably jump with an instant limb = punish hard.

drills are mad useful now, just dont spam em.

I dunno man, I just had a 25 game win stream against some pretty good players, and I did it playing offense. Whether playing offense is smart depends on the matchup of course, but I definitely think he can do it.

you dropping gief?

Maybe. It’s up in the air between Gief, Sim, and Hakan right now.

I’ve Always been interested seeing your playstyle with Sim, and these drill setups.
Hope you’ll choose the yoga spammer :wink:
Hakan is also cool IMHO.

ok guys i played SSFIV

i finished the trials with Sim, one of the trials made me really crazy
Focus > Shangria-La

it took me 1 hour to make it work, its not really that easy
and i really don’t know why someone would use this Focus > Shangrila
i mean i would better use Catastrophy instead which i can make super after or at least a light flame or a mummy

I bet you didn’t to instant air ultra then (Tiger knee motion)
:qcf::qcf::uf::3p:

Should be no problem if you knew about that input!

Focus to shangri-la is actually really easy if you know how to do it. Just do mp+mk for focus, then dash toward, down, down-toward, toward, down, down-toward, toward, toward+up+ppp. In other words, two quarter circles toward but finish the last quarter circle at up-toward instead of just toward.