Cross counter Asia, new ep where they review and comment on v2012 changes…
They decide to skip over Gouken, on account of punishing bullcat of kicking them, they had a hard time naming a good Gouken in the first place. Argued over that no one plays him.
but then one of them admits that they dont even know Goukens moves…
Someone needs to shoot this video over to capcom or something and point out that section.
We are the neglected child of the SFIV series.
lets leave it that way … lets just do our thing and lay low
Some loketest changes were up, which was saved into a pdf file and uploaded in a capcom web. Gouken’s cr.HP is -3 on hit, his MP and HP Kongo have increased armour box.
I didn’t know Gouken had a glitch where if both of them do cl.st.MK at the same time they’ll cross each other and change sides.
linky??
I don’t know why i was expecting that in English
I guess according to this, http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregaman/blog/2011/08/26/finalists_for_the_forces_of_summer_brackets_are_set there ARE changes left off the list, and not necessary small changes.
Since Gouken have one of the most changes in the change list according to DEV blog. Logically concludes that his normal are buffed in general, like how AE buffed Gouken in general.
That doesn’t necessarily mean they changed all his stuff, but it could mean that the changes they did affected him a lot and/or were extensive in work(having to code the charge up for denjin).
No, it doesn’t provides it, but logically concludes that is what it will be like, since they said exactly the same thing in AE and did more changes then listed just like in AE.
No, they didn’t? what was changed that they didn’t mention besides the kongo damage nerf?
And Mullah, I still don’t agree on the footsies but let’s leave it at that.
Mullah, cr.LK is an amazing poke. Follow up with another - you’ll usually strike, and then dash in and throw them away.
Counter-poking with cr.LP to LP Palm is the move I’m trying to get into my system now, because it can be a great counter against tick-throws or tick-anything.
With improved range on LP Palm, it can be used with cr. LK too.
How in the world can lp xxx lp palm be a good tool against tick throws? By the time you read tick throw and press lp (4 frame punch, correct?), Ken is kara kicking your ass already.
If those brackets signify the characters. Which Im fairly sure. And those are all the changes, then Gouken definitely did not get the most changes.
And Id rather Gouken get some attention to get more tournament viable than to stay quiet and marvel at little xbl victories.
How can you tell Gouken’s bracket? It all looks Chinese to me…
BTW, in my opinion after reading the buffs for some of the other characters, Gouken has just moved down the list. Hakan got some serious shit, Dan got some serious shit, Juri got some nice buffs, Cody got great stuff, Guy now has NO recovery on his command jump!, DeeJay buffed, Abel buffed, Elf buffed, Seth, Rose, Vega, Honda, Blanka…
Yay.
That’s different but I only meant before a walk-up throw. I misused tick-throw - I meant in the range where they walk for a nanosecond before initiating the throw.
I can read some Japanese so let me translate
■閃空剛衝波：弱の攻撃判定を前に拡大、中を SSF4の弱と同様の性能に、強を SSF4の中と同様の性能に
Basically say LP palm have extended hit box. MP is the same as SSFA’s LP, and HP is same as SSF4 MP. Nothing new here
■2HP：ヒット時3F不利に
Crouching HP -3 Frame on hit.
■5MK：剛拳同士で密着して発動した時、互いが抜けないよう調整
Forward MK When it is close the properties have changed to activates differently… it doesn’t really say exactly what it does.
■電刃波動拳：発生までのレバガチャ入力回数で弾速が 3 段階に変化するように設定、最終段のダメージを全レベル+45、タメ時間を一律SSF4 の UC ゲージ 75%ある状態と同様に
Ultra 2 changes, nothing new here. Changes time is about 75% of SSF4
■金剛身：中と強の当身矩形を拡大、スタン値を一律200 に
Parry, MP and HP hurt box increased. 200 stuns, nothing new
Yeah I noticed Bullcat booting them in an earlier episode. I lost respect for him after that. You can’t be the best Gouken when you are cherry picking your opponents.
I heard that the max speed of denjin seems to have similar speed with Ryu’s HP Super.
Um holy shit? +3 on hit or real? That’s a 7 frame difference. You can c.hp and follow up with c.hk as a poke and probably trade with any normal. Counter hit c.hp now links to sweep…
How about fadc ultra? Math please!