Dev blog Gen changes AE 2012

[street11]

We can kara ultras? Shows what little I know of frame data and the like. That’s truly a great thing to hear if it ends up being a non character specific change now. I knew the 2 frame speed buff was better than it sounded, but if it can be combo’d against everyone from EX hands! I’ll cross my fingers in hope, since that’d be about the only change I really wanted left.

IIRC any higher priority move can be kara-ed with a lower priority move. For example you can plink MK~MP for kara focus. You can plink MK~3P for kara stance change. You can plink HK~HP for kara taunt. You can absolutely kara Gekiro by doing DP + plink HP~LK, because even though HP button itself has a higher priority than LK, a special move has a higher priority than a normal.

Currently you can do kara mantis U2 by doing QCBx2 + HP~3P or MK~3P. It actually gives more range and is possible to prove. You cannot do this with mantis U1 if you have full super, because super will come out instead in case of HP, and in case of MK, gekiro will come out instead, which doesn’t give a forward movement. Hence useless.

[HNIC_Mike]

wait, mantis U2 is going to be 7 frames?

that means counterhit st.mp U2 would be piss easy. like 3 frame link easy. id use it just for that

i think it works now, but is a 1 frame link

[street11]

2f link actually, st.MP gets only +2 on counterhit. Not as good as Yang’s U1 considering damage and AA ability, but still it will be better.

[Warlike]

So is there some place we can spam requests? Seriously gen needs EX oga invinciblity back and everytime you play a pressure character like Fei or Akuma it just re-enforces this :\ Fuck the roll ‘buff’ I’d swap it for EX oga back.

[street11]

Well, I just know Ono will totally ignore our twitter requests, so the best bet would be Ask Capcom in capcom-unity.

[HNIC_Mike]

2f link actually, st.MP gets only +2 on counterhit. Not as good as Yang’s U1 considering damage and AA ability, but still it will be better.

yeah, i was just going to come back here and ask about that. i was in training mode and couldnt link it on counterhit after like 20 tries. oh well. but it’ll be a new option in 2012

[Vanesco]

Grain of salt, but from twitter:
Yoshi_OnoChin Yoshinori Ono

We’ll be upload information about AE2012 in tomorrow(21th 22th Sep). Could be check at CAPCOM-Unity site! ;D

Could be the rumored additional costumes. Or it could be additional changes, since multiple loketests usually produce multiple builds. We can only pray.

[Warlike]

IT COULD BE THE RETURN OF EX OGA

additional speedo swimsuit costume for gen…=(

[Newtype_Andy]

additional speedo swimsuit costume for gen…=(

What better way to harass my friends than to attack them with a nearly-dead old man in a speedo!?

That reminds me though, anyone remember that track suit Gen concept someone sketched up?

http://www.wearepes.com/~vip/KAiWAi/SSF4/COSTUME/GEN_costume_B.jpg

Oh yeah…

[VOLTECH]

LOL nice! That would make a for some good stick art as well

[tha_messiah]

Was thinking the same thing

[Vanesco]

Awesome, Hayato from Rival Schools

[VOLTECH]

LOL yep

http://fenixware.net/fab/images/chars/game/hayato_rs.jpg

[internetmemesftw]

Grain of salt, but from twitter:
Yoshi_OnoChin Yoshinori Ono

We’ll be upload information about AE2012 in tomorrow(21th 22th Sep). Could be check at CAPCOM-Unity site! ;D

Could be the rumored additional costumes. Or it could be additional changes, since multiple loketests usually produce multiple builds. We can only pray.

please please please be moar buffs for gen :S
Universal TC2- hk gekiro, ex oga invin. (unlikely), mantis u2 hitbox+ damage buffs, old mantis jump (doubtful) < at LEAST one of those…

[Kmo]

Honestly, I’m more upset about U2 than the roll. I think Gen has a ton going for him since we got those TC’s, but U2 Mantis has always been…useless. There really isnt any other word for it. No real damage. Provokes turtling in a game already about turtling. Heals as soon as they stand up. You’ve heard it all already.

So the response from the Devs was “Hmmm. No one likes Mantis Ultra 2, Bob-kun. I’VE GOT IT! LETS MAKE IT SO FAST THEY’LL HAVE TO LOVE IT!” Meanwhile, Gouken gets a nice additional mechanic for his U2 to make it more useful.

Honestly, I’m not too upset, but at the same time, I’m not too happy. I feel that, as a whole, our games wont change too much.

[tha_messiah]

Well Beta notes are being released. Hopefully Gen is going to get some more changes that aren’t nerfs and are actual buffs.

[internetmemesftw]

Well Beta notes are being released. Hopefully Gen is going to get some more changes that aren’t nerfs and are actual buffs.

It would be blasphemy to nerf him again. Keep everything so far and add more.
As for matchups, I think the Guile buffs will be annoying, Ryu hk srk not being fadcable is ok, Honda is still a bitch to fight, Viper and Seth look to be slightly easier now, Gouken got buffs but they arent really gamechanging in the matchup, except the ludicrous super buff…, and not sure about the Blanka balls. Hopefully Gen gets some nice tools too…

[tha_messiah]

and not sure about the Blanka balls.

lol sorry I’m immature but I’m laughing while typing this… I think his balls will give us more trouble now. as long as they know how to hit confirm.

EX Vertical Roll, Hard & EX Beast Roll = Knockdown.

[HNIC_Mike]

lol sorry I’m immature but I’m laughing while typing this… I think his balls will give us more trouble now. as long as they know how to hit confirm.

EX Vertical Roll, Hard & EX Beast Roll = Knockdown.

rofl. it appears as tho i am also immature

[Warlike]

Jesus Gouken has a long ass buff list. Oh god I hope they give us EX Oga back or make it so that hk gekiro works on everyone from TC2. Either of those would be the best they could give us imo.