I saw some japanese asking some weird property for shitenketsu, like draining the opponent’s gauge… That would be damn fun
In my opinion Gen’s alpha version of the Shitenketsu was the best.
Hmm that would be kinda neat to make up for grey damage and having to chase their damn ass all over sometimes. Make it so once they get hit or hit you, it stops it from draining. I’d rather have the poison properties similar to Alpha.
I swear to god, they should have had the grey health drain over time until Gen gets hit. Landing that move should make the opponent desperately chase GEN, not the other way around.
i hate capcom … really Gen need damages buffs for his combos OR better stamina from 900 to 950 !!
Capcom Gen is Not Fu***** easier than RYU OR KEN !!!
[LIST]
[]Gen - s.Strong, s.Forward, LK Gekiro - 223 Damage / 289 Stun
[]Yun - c.Strong, c.Strong, MP Lunge Punch - 208 Damage / 320 Stun
[]Yun - c.Short, c.Short, s.Jab, s.Strong, MK Dragon Kicks - 169 Damage / 286 Stun
[]Ryu - c.Strong, s.Fierce, Tatus - 230 Damage / 460 Stun
[]Ryu - c.Short, c.Jab, c.Fierce, HP SRK - 227 Damage / 400 Stun
[]E.Honda - c.Jab, HP Hands, s.Round House - 225 Damage / 310 Stun
[/LIST]
As you can see Gen really isn’t that behind. when it comes to combo starters from the ground.
[LIST]
[]Gen - Crane j.Fierce, Mantis s.Strong, TC2, LK Gekiro - 325 Damage / 513 Stun
[]E.Honda - j.Fierce, c.Forward, HP Hands, s.Round House - 334 Damage / 517 Stun
[/LIST]
Not that far off again and Honda is considered to be one of the biggest heavy hitters. You always hear people say “look at the damage” when Honda lands his hands combos… well look at Gens.
The only thing he’s some what lacking in his combos is Stun factor. But he makes up for it with his other tools. Like his amazing pokes… I’d take godlike pokes over stun.
If anything I find him a bit below average in meter gain in non-punish combos. Others I consider him really good, even good enough for a 900/900 character.
Finally updated the 1st post with new info (yea I’m sooooo fast 
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I didn’t give shit about what they said in dev blog, and I simply translated the changes in the pdf changelist file as is.
Not that I’m quite disagreeing with you, but directly comparing numbers like this doesn’t say much to dispute his claim-- if characters are exchanging comparable damage you’d mathematically expect the character with the most health to win. Yet in practice Yun, who has the weakest shown combos and low health, is the best character on that list (currently).
If you jump to the conclusion that a character will win based on damage output you should stop playing this game. That wasn’t my claim and I didn’t type no such words. my claim was to show him that his DAMAGE output was on par with other characters. I think you are the one who jumped to that conclusion, or you are assuming others will.
The only point that was being made, and the only thing that the conversation was about was damage output. Yes I said his stun isn’t quiet up there, but I said he makes up for it with his pokes. And in my opinion I’d take his pokes over stun.
But if you want to start comparing characters. If you have a solid defence Gen’s damage output will be useful. Other than that my claim was only to show the Damage output. Not comparing characters over-all.
Sorry if there was some miscommunication somewhere. I agree with you that Gen is a pretty solid character. I’m just saying that comparing damage amounts for different characters’ combos doesn’t really describe how good a given character is, and that if a character were bad despite having decent damage combos then increasing the damage of his combos would be one way of making him better.
Again, not that I’m saying Gen is bad. I like Gen. I like that you like Gen (you put in a lot of work here!). It was the post you were originally responding to that implied Gen is bad.
crosses fingers for additional beta buffs
specifically, i want more range on my mantis normals, and more speed on crane. i konw its not a need, but im a greedy bastard
Well to be honest I didn’t get that. I only responded to the part I highlighted in bold and it was damage output only. So I was trying to end the whole “damage” cry once and for all. Other than that, I wasn’t replying to anything else and I didn’t see him mention anything about gen being a bad character other than damage and his health. Maybe he was, but with so little typed, to me it was hard for me to jump to that conclusion.
Can I say it? :3
We are all friends here, you can say anything 
Don’t do it Vanesco :(. Wait till 2012 comes out! Gen’s going to be so much more fun I tells ya!
Hopefully Gen gets nerfed like that scrub Fei.
I realize that you’re just here to troll Mike, but here’s the thing- you’re terrible at it.
You’ve got to up your game! Go read some books. Expand your vocabulary! Get new and clever insights into how peoples’ minds work so you can figure out how to make them rage better!
Seriously, your troll-heart is in the right place but your skills aren’t yet ready for prime time. Take some time off, practice up, get some new techniques, and get back to us in a couple of months. We’ll still be here.
You can do it. We have faith in you. Believe!
Nobody likes a game dominated by kung fu.
I appreciate that you are trying, really I do, but I’m still not feeling it. Seriously, you don’t have to do this right now. Come back when you’re ready.