My baseline for comparision was what I could do on pad. In ST, it took about two weeks to be at least as good on stick as I was on pad. ~1 week in I played some matches and was still having a few “LOL I hit the wrong button” or “LOL I jumped accidentally” moments. That resolved itself fairly quickly. In particular I noticed an almost immediate huge improvement in my ability to hit 632146 and 360 motions. Some of the advanced stuff I did in Guilty Gear took a little longer, but once I got IAD down, I saw an almost immediate improvement in my ability to execute IAD back 214K with Jam, which is something I generally struggled with on pad and tended to wear my thumb out quickly. ~1.5 months after I started stick I played in Guilty Gear and HDR tournaments fully confident that I was better on stick than pad. Granted, I’m not a particularly great player either way, but it really didn’t take all that long for me to adjust, and to be convinced that stick is way better than pad.
The key to improving at anything is setting goals that are just outside of your current ability, working to meet that goal, and then setting a new one. When you go into practice mode, you want to have some specific things in mind to work on. I pretty much just outlined how I approached it. Of course, it’s possible that I’m just some kind of freak or something, but I don’t think so. Using input bars for feedback also really helped.
The better you are with pad, the fuckier it is to make the transition. With pad i raped some really good players here in europe, with stick I still totally suck because I cant 100% concentrate on game strategies as I have to concentrate on the stick is this normal?
can anyone watch this video and tell me if im dashing correctly?
At first when I started on the stick I tired to play online and I keep freeezing up as if I neva played SF4 before lol. After playing so much with the stick in training and playing my friends I’m able to play how I was when I first started on the pad. So trust me itd take some time getting good with tha stick and when you do the time will have payed off.
Don’t you find it difficult to do FADCs with the buttons being like that? Throws aren’t so bad due to your thumb resting on lk, but I find it very awkward to pull off say SRK > FADC > Ultra.
i actually had the opposite problem. i learned on a stick then had to switch to pad. you get used to it. i can play perfectly fine with either. but i prefer the stick.
Learn to use the stick. It will pay off in the long run, and you will get your play style down sooner than you think. It’s a much better tool, so learn to use it.
It took me two weeks too get as good as I was with pad.
That was with square gate, soon as my octagon came in my skill level shot up fast.
If you’ve used pad for so long octagon gate will come natural too you, but I’m sure sticking with square wouldn’t hurt either.
“Dashing is way easier with a stick. So is parrying (in 3S) and just about anything else.”
I actually used both the d pad and the joystick on the ps2/3 controller and I could execute anything with Necro almost flawlessly including parries.
I used both for different things but became so used to using whichever one I needed to use for the situation I no longer had to think about switching between them.
That took a TON of finger memorizing in training mode though.
This seems normal.
I got my arcade stick yesterday and had problems with fireballs and all the other moves.
Now I’m frustrated and thinking about to change the character(I’m playing ryu since the first streetfighter)
I hope it will not take longer than one week to become comfortable with the stick.
But one think is really true :
I’ve alot more fun at playing with the stick and to pulling of the EX moves by pressing three buttons at same time is great.
It took me about 3 weeks to become proficient after having never used a stick since playing in the arcades as a little kid. So take your time and stick with it, you’ll appreciate the fact that you did.
You are getting constant feedback from the screen so you can’t really learn to do things in a “wrong” way. If it works on the screen then it can’t be “wrong”.
I had to think about that for a minute. You bring up a valid point. If someone is executing moves with a high success rate, it doesn’t matter if they are playing with their feet. I do think a new stick player can learn the “wrong” way if they do sloppy quick inputs rather than actually getting a feel for the gates and switches clicking. They may get shoryuken 66% of the time by crapping the move out, but never really have honed an accurate motion.
I think if a new stick player just craps out motions as quickly as possible and settles for low success rates, they’ll adapt way more slowly over time as they don’t have an established baseline to do moves consistently.
That’s basically how I’ve been attempting to use my joystick lately. I’m going on two months with mine and, while I’ve surpassed my pad skill, I still feel very uncomfortable with the actual grip. I had been using my index finger and thumb with the lower fingers spread as a base of sorts, but I don’t think that’s giving me enough control, so I’ve added the middle finger. It feels odd, but I think it will pay off. As someone above said, practice is good, but I practicing bad technique is not.
I have the Madcatz SE stick (TE not available), even though I’m just learning do you think it’d be worth it to mod it? Or should I just wait until I’ve gotten used to it first?
is this normal?